be nice and fact-oriented in the comments please

  • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
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    23 hours ago

    I think part of the reasoning also was the “Germany, Germany above everything, above everything in the world” is quite literally incompatible with our modern constitution and the desire for redemption in the time after the war. The idea of a nation state being above anyone was consciously rejected, which is why the very first words of our constitution literally reads:


    (1) Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority.

    (2) The German people therefore acknowledge inviolable and inalienable human rights as the basis of every community, of peace and of justice in the world.


    Literally nothing can stand above human rights and human dignity, including Germany itself.

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      22 hours ago

      But again, the German Anthem literally starts with “Deutschland, Deutschland über alles!” and you see the national team sing it every time they play. That’s why i can’t understand how it can be illegal to say in Germany when it is literally the opening stanza of their national anthem.

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        11 hours ago

        Das stimmt nicht. Es wird die erste Strophe NICHT gesungen.

        You are wrong.

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          Yes, you’ll have to forgive me for not realizing the German national anthem no longer uses the only line of the song that the English speaking world actually knows. And literally every link when you search “Deutschland über alles” says “German National Anthem”

          I see now that it isn’t actually the anthem anymore, just a partt

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        16 hours ago

        How the fuck do you manage to be so confidently wrong when everyone tells you you’re wrong, and a single Google Search would prove that. The anthem starts with “Unity and right and freedom”.

        This is the national anthem, translated:


        Unity and right and freedom For the German fatherland! Let us all pursue this purpose Fraternally with heart and hand! Unity and right and freedom Are the pledge of happiness; |:Flourish in this blessing’s glory, Flourish, German fatherland!:|


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        19 hours ago

        The German anthem starts with “Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit”.