• Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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    Your alternatives to the working class taking 100% of the risk via a general strike are:

    • The working class taking on 100% of the risk through organized collective action.

    … Thank you for your contribution.

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      indirectly though. they won’t be jobless or without support immediately after doing any of the things I mentioned. it’s difference between turning off a light by switch or blowing out candles before the room goes dark.

      so, if we do a general strike, what’s next? it’s not like we can go back to our jobs after four or five weeks and say, “sorry about that, I’ve come to work again. you can trust I won’t do that again.”

      at least using the options I mentioned we can lead up to a general strike.

      simplest way I can explain it is a general strike is like a bullet to our collective heads. calling for a general strike right now to this administration is like holding the gun to our head screaming “I’ll do it!” they don’t care, they want us to do it.

      it’s not the time or place for it yet. if anything, it’s better to stay in the job you’re at and find a way to hurt the administration with the position and power you have.

      but, if collectively we want to strike not much anyone like me can do to explain the negative impacts. knock yourself out. I’ll be keeping my job though, not because I disagree or lack faith in the cause but because I think I have far more value to the movement in my position. everyone has to make their own assessment of their own standing though.

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        it’s not like we can go back to our jobs after four or five weeks and say, “sorry about that, I’ve come to work again. you can trust I won’t do that again.”

        Yes we can.
        That’s how strikes work.
        That’s exactly how strikes have always worked.

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          how’d that work out for those Starbucks or Amazon employees? or how about Ludlow?

          it’s different this time. just because that something has “always” worked doesn’t mean it can’t stop working.

          you have to look back at when strikes were successful and ask why it was, then ask why any of those reasons work today.

          IMO I think we’re closer to Ludlow today than we have been in close to 70 years.

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            This is getting boring dude.

            how’d that work out for those Starbucks or Amazon employees?

            Worse than it did for the steel workers, the Writer’s Guild of America and UAW. All of which were far longer strikes than four weeks, incidentally.

            it’s different this time.

            Why?

            Then ask why any of those reasons work today.

            Yes, please do that.

            IMO I think we’re closer to Ludlow today than we have been in close to 70 years.

            Okay.

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              This is getting boring dude.

              cool. and here I thought we were having a civil discussion.

              I would hate to bore you anymore, so I guess we can just agree to disagree on the impacts of a general strike.

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        Buddy if I’m a mechanic and I put transmission fluid in the oil pan you think I’m going to still have a job after that? Your suggestions are not better. They’re petty and unrealistic to organize and explain to the individual. And they’re not very different from a general strike in the end.