• arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    5 days ago

    More than half of Harris voters, 51 percent, say that America is not a functioning democracy, while 52 percent of Trump voters take the opposite view and say the U.S. is a model.

    I’m amazed only half think America is not a functioning democracy. American “democracy” is totally broken.

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    3 days ago

    we should just take a state, like Arizona, and set a date to ship all the folks willing to fight and let them duke it out.

    no guns, no blades, just fists and legs. you don’t get food or water either. when you give up you can be reintroduced to society or continue living in the Arizona hellscape of your own creation.

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      5 days ago

      The civil war is inevitable and has already started. The instigators are being hired by ICE.

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        I’d say its about 99.9% of both groups. I mean, Trump got elected, and no one stopped it. Americans can’t be that attatched to a functioning democracy. Or human rights. Or not having a rapist treasonous dementia ridden piece of shit steering our country into the plantery core. Off hand, I can only think of about 4 people who id consider the true americans of this generation, and i think all four of those people are right wingers sadly. As much as i hate right wingers, it does seem like if the country is ever to be improved, itll be a lone right winger to do it.

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          There was a group of anarchists who ambushed an ICE facility and shot them.

          The media quickly buried that story, which always makes me laugh when I hear how Libs say not to use violence as Trump is only waiting for an excuse. Yet when he got the perfect excuse, it’s all crickets.

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            Just about everything about this comment is factually incorrect. There were two incidents. In the first, a group of people (allegedly) were setting off fireworks and spray-painting vehicles, fled from responding local police, and one of the group shot at them and injured an officer. In the second incident, a disturbed individual fired and killed a detainee, injuring two others. Then he killed himself.

            So, no anarchists, no ICE personnel shot, and it was easy to find the news stories about both incidents. ICE has shot several people, and begun using more violent tactics, so it would at appear that they are escalating.

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                3 days ago

                I read several news pieces about the incident. You should read the Wikipedia article when linking it. One local police officer was wounded, no ICE personnel were shot. Three detainees were shot in a separate incident in Dallas. The John Brown Gun Club isn’t anarchist. So, as I said, no anarchists, no ICE personnel shot, it was easy to find news stories (and a Wikipedia article) about the incident, and ICE is escalating their violent tactics.

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                4 days ago

                I had already posted the exact story at the time he posted his comment. Its literally the comment above his lol. Wild.

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      Much closer than you would probably expect. The left just doesn’t make it their whole personality.

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        " There are also significant differences across parties, with Republican and Republican-leaning independents more than twice as likely as Democrats and those who lean Democratic to say they own a gun (44% vs. 20%)."

        Everybody says they want a revolutions, but nobody wants to take responsibility for the inevitable civil war that follows. -I don’t remember where I heard that but it seems relevant here.