• balderdash@lemmy.zipOP
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    14 hours ago

    When has the United States government ever been ethical? The older I get the more I realize that I live in the Death Star.

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      12 hours ago

      Historically separation of powers worked. We’ve never had such a naked power grab by the executive branch, so many illegal orders, ignoring the courts, a sycophant congress. Agency leaders were generally competent and tried to fulfill agency missions. There’s never been such blatant bribery, spite based action, conflict of interest, profiteering off government roles, insider trading. Previous administrations mostly followed the constitution.

      Sure we have our share of unethical actions by the government but they generally stayed within the legal structure of the government and were somewhat accountable.

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        11 hours ago

        Yes, the decline of our institutions is more blatant now. But it’s a difference of degree, not of kind.

        • Congresspersons, on the left and right, have been insider trading for decades.
        • The SCOTUS ruled that corporations are people that have unlimited “free speech” with their money.
        • Bush started targeting terrorists with drones and now the U.S. president can order drone strikes. (Some have called Obama a war criminal due to excessive civilian casualties resulting from drone strikes. But Americans don’t really care about this.)
        • Biden bombed Yemen without congressional approval and now Trump has bombed Iran.
        • Bush sent “enemy combatants” to Guantanamo Bay without due process. Now Trump sends “illegal aliens” to detention camps without due process.
        • The CIA has brazenly declassified many covert operations to stop the spread of communism. Including installing brutal dictators and interfering with democratic elections. (They admit to doing this but, again, Americans do not care.)
        • Bush and Obama both bailed out corporations that are “too big to fail”.
        • Questionable wars in Asia and the Middle East that fed the military industrial complex and made a well-positioned few unimaginably wealthy.

        You likely disagree with some of these examples. But my point is only this: Trump is the symptom of a disease that we have ignored for far too long. We all pledged allegiance to the flag in school. We all learned that America stands for liberty, justice, equality, etc. for all. But this country has never lived up to those professed ideals.