This consolidation of power is a dream come true for the Big Tech platforms, but it’s a nightmare for users. While the megacorporations get more traffic and a whole lot more user data (read: profit), users are left with far fewer community options and a bland, corporate surveillance machine instead of a vibrant public sphere. The internet we all fell in love with is a diverse and colorful place, full of innovation, connection, and unique opportunities for self-expression. That internet—our internet—is worth defending.

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    Facebook is kinda unavoidable here.

    I have young kids, and marketplace has saved me thousands of dollars. Kids need a lot of different stuff at different ages and it’s nice to be able to flip the stuff you dont need anymore and get the stuff they do need second hand.

    Also messenger, what’s app. My apartment building has a what’s app group thats invaluable. I talk to customers on messenger.

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      18 hours ago

      This is just an excuse, not a justification. There’s always garage sales and such. Also, Facebook Marketplace is not the only game in town.

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            Well, sure ok it’s “avoidable” in the sense that I’m not forced to engage with facebook or any other company or platform.

            However, the imposition on my daily functioning and ability to interact with my peers would be severely disaffected.

            If there’s a group of a dozen people that I know in person who are interacting on whats app, then if I want to interact with them I need to use whats app.

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      It is totally avoidable, you will find new ways to handle your business. You have to stop using their service, they are a cancer on our society and they are actively engaging in propaganda for genocide amongst many other shitty things.

      The sooner you pull the trigger the better off you will be. It is past time to move on.

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            Not really. I use my tech for both.

            How does that matter?

            Logging in to fb marketplace in a containered tab isn’t a big deal.

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      Then you dont ever get to complain. You have other options, but its too hard for you, so youd rather just contribute to pissing away freedoms and privacy. Its because of people like you, who wont put up with even a little discomfort, that we are where we are. They keep pushing, and people like just keep on saying “OK”.

      If we are ever to stop this increasingly vile push to have us be endlessly profiled, its unfortunately going to have to be people like you that finally grow a fucking back bone. So yeah, we’re fucked…

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        Oh my sweet summer child. One day the light of idealism will fade from your eyes just as it does for everyone who is not 15.

        I’m not contributing to pissing away freedoms and privacy, but I’m not going to inconvenience myself on ideological grounds.

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          Its got nothing to do with some frivolous ideology, and everything to do with not letting someone else manipulate me through convenience. People like you always have excuses, but the reality is that youre just lazy. You want your hand held by some tech daddy, you need your hand held by some tech daddy. Because other wise you might have to think for yourself. And that, well, thats just too much effort. No, better to bend over, spread cheeks, and present your arse to the gods of convenience. Well, that and all your data…

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            LOL. Settle down mate.

            You can call me names if it makes you feel better.

            I couldn’t care less if fb knows I’m selling toddler clothes.

            I, and everyone else who is not 15, will continue selling my junk on facebook.

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              Wao, you actually think that’s all they know and therefore that’s the only data they would share and profit from?

              OK, then I totally understand why you are so complacent about it. It all makes sense now.

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              Eh, youre the only one doing the name calling and character assassination, cunty chops… Im just calling it like I see it, and youre feeling personally attacked…

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        Yes, instead of buying secondhand, he should buy new items at Walmart, Target, and Amazon. 🙄

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            So you insult this dude and tell him “you have other options”, but refuse to elaborate on those other options. Got it.

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              Get offline and go out. I can’t tell you what your options are in your area. I could give you a whole list of the options in my area, but only you know where everything is in your environment.

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                There’s salvation army and Savers, and that’s about it. Usually they don’t have great stuff. Unfortunately, Facebook marketplace is where people in this area go to sell shit.

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      The issues related to facebook marketplace are not unique. Plenty of people have second-hand items to sell without using fb marketplace.

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        That’s not really true.

        I live in a fairly small city. There might be other platforms but they’re not in common use.

        I can list a box of toddler clothes and they’ll sell in a week, while other platforms perhaps they won’t sell at all.

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        Plenty of people have second-hand items to sell without using fb marketplace.

        Where? Craigslist has become a pit. eBay is not cost effective for large items that are expensive to ship.

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          Don’t know where you are, but Kijiji is absolutely thriving in Ontario. My old man has about 40-50 items up at any given time, and has no problems finding buyers to rotate through his stock, and he is nowhere near a major population centre. I just looked at ads for a city centre and there is a lot available. It is definitely possible to work outside of facebook.

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      I’m in this weird middle ground where I hate FB with a passion and it depresses me every time I log in, but I need to create a personal brand for my business (and to get laid, who am I kidding) and honestly I’m thinking about getting one of my friends to run it for me, which seems weird but

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        I think everyone feels that way. All you can do is just try to stick to the bits you really need.

        I would def think about paying someone to manage your business page.