Listen, I know wars are horribly bad. I’m really sorry even asking such a question.

I’m Canadian. It seems that the fascists are set on military action against Greenland. I’m highly afraid that we’re next. So I’m hoping the following happens in order:

  1. No wars. Somehow, legally the fascist executive is stopped. This unfortunately seems unlikely…
  2. They get bogged down in a war elsewhere. This prevents them from coming after Canada. I know this is me being extremely selfish, but whatever.
  3. A civil war begins. No one has to worry about being invaded.

So my question is related to the third possibility. What could start a civil war? Could an invasion of Greenland and the following economic collapse (hopefully caused by the EU dropping US treasuries) be the spark?

  • TerranFenrir@lemmy.caOPEnglish
    4·
    9 days ago

    Do you think state violence against protestors would be the precursor to civil war or at least an insurgency?

    Americans are armed, right? Would state violence be met with silence?

    • MagicShel@lemmy.zipEnglish
      8·
      9 days ago

      I can’t say. It’s true that lots of us have guns, but the people who’ve been itching to use them are largely happy with the government. On the other hand, I was just seeing that Black Panthers are chilling in Philadelphia, heavily armed with serious firepower.

      The thing is, if we get into a shootout with the military or ice, that will certainly lead to invocation of the insurgency act and that will effectively end democracy here. Most of us understand Trump would love a shooting war because essentially any opposition to him or his stormtroopers would be sedition.

      He’s testing the waters even now. How much abuse and violence will protestors endure before they do fight back? We’re hanging on by a thread here. Clinging to the faint hope that somehow we will make it to the elections, and that they will result in curbing his power.

      Those are some big ifs. And if we fail in November, most of us will look to 2028. I always wondered why the Germans let Hitler continue to do what he did. But now I it see it. If they moved too fast there would be resistance. But as long as they move slowly, people think it’s not much worse today than yesterday — that fighting against it would be terrible and we’d probably die because there aren’t enough of us.

      No, I don’t think there will be a moment when we throw down Trump. His presidency will end in 2028 because Democrats win big this year, or he will be a wartime president and that will end only with his natural death and what happens next will be up to… I guess Vance.

      But you should know, I’m not very good at predictions. I never thought Trump had a chance in either election. So take all of that with a huge grain of salt.