• bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
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    9 hours ago

    I agree but fb is the only place for musicians and show/event notifications, not to mention TONs of non tech savvy small businesses use fb SOLELY for their business info and hours.

    Its never going away.

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      6 hours ago

      If a business uses Facebook only, I boycott them.

      Facebook and Instagram won’t let me view any of it anyways, but a business should have principles.

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          3 hours ago

          It’s not just a matter of the company’s capabilities. Sometimes the customers demand it.

          Very recently a group of moms I know was upset because their plans were weather dependent and the water park they were heading to only posted the closure on their official website and not on facebook!

          Yeah we’re all tech gods and they are dummies har har etc. And fortunately my work lets me work at quiet offices and at home. But I feel for the people who have to serve them, because the public IS filled with dummies, but many of them are just nice people who are trying to do business with you. And of course a large subset are cunts, which makes the ignorant decent people get much worse service.

          This just reminded me about reading in an article how at some point Musk said he wanted to make X be the everything app. For many people, Facebook is already much further in that direction. That’s where they get their news, text or call their friends, do their shopping, plan their events, doom scroll, argue with strangers, etc. They might never leave it if TikTok wasn’t so deeply soaked into their neurons.

          Needles to say, these people are exactly the type of conservative or recovering conservative people who should be far away from facebook. And I’m not excusing them. But I can at least understand the position folks trying to do business with them are in.

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      4 hours ago

      There was this new technology in the 80s that took over in offices. It became so ubiquitous that people bought the machines to have at home, and it found a less-than-optimal use-case as a general communication device. In the 90s, as its popularity boomed, it would be totally reasonable to make the same assessment you just made, that they would never go away. But when was the last time you used a fax machine?

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        Im sorry, I dont feel like your comparison is relevant. Until something exists thats brain dead easy to use and has a ton of backing like fb, it will be required to have it for any community involvement in a lot of places.

        Remember, the internet is scary now and people only want spoonfed services from massive corporations. Anything else is scawwyy.

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      8 hours ago

      Business info can be found anywhere through duckduckgo, google or with a phone call! I never knew that musicians use FB, I guess for promotions ? After leaving FB I used YouTube and bandcamp for new music.

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          5 hours ago

          I have a local newspaper subscription that often have articles/info and/or ads for local shows and festivals - one can even go to the library to read it every day for free if paying isn’t in one’s budget (but I like paying for it, it’s a lot of fluff but sometimes they dig up something about how my city is being managed or mismanaged, and they have shone a light on a few desperately needed changes in local government).

          I also know most venues in the area that host small bands and can check their website or get their newsletter through email.

          There’s also flyers being taped up at the store, library and on maintenance boxes and poles around town for current events and activities (that’s how I found my knitting club!).

          There are probably ticket vendors where you can flag certain bands or venues or maybe genres and get an email when something is booked in your area.

          Just walking my city, talking to people, looking in shops and venues, and being present outside I get a ton of info about local events. I don’t miss FB. I don’t need a global mega-site to tell me what’s happening outside my own door.

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            3 hours ago

            I love papers, but I can name about 1 other person who reads the paper in my town, and theyre dead because they were 98.

            NO ONE reads papers anymore. Very few look at flyers in public either, they stare at their phones no matter where they are.

            The only way is for a new service to come out that every single person jumps on. That wont happen, so we have fb, and will have fb for 20 more years. Look at Craigslist, no one touches that since marketplace exists, there’s no reason to, and its more dangerous since you cant see a profile of a person (yes, those could be fake but that takes effort)

            I should clarify i HATE fb and most social media besides lemmy I will not use. But when EVERYONE is on fb, you cant just deny using it, unless you want to have no friends or involvement.

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              2 hours ago

              Well… YOU could read papers. YOU could look up from your phone and notice the flyers.

              The possibilities are there. There are other ways to get info about local events than from fb. You don’t have to wait for everyone else to pick up a paper.

              Ps. I have plenty of friends and involvement, which most of my current social circle I gathered after moving alone to a new city, without using social media. I lost a lot of acquaintances by leaving fb, but none that I actually miss. My friends are the ones I put effort into keeping in touch with.

              People exist offline. We’ve done so for millennia, and still do.

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                1 hour ago

                Right, but im 1 person in a sea of millions who dont use papers, dont know what a cd is, dont go on any sites besides x and fb.

                Its a losing battle. Even my friends are far too tech illiterate to do anything like matrix or signal (plus theyre afraid of it anyways). It sucks that WE know better but have to abide by what most of society uses if you want to be involved.