just buy a cock cage and find a keyholder near you
there are many in Germany
you are a good boy and don’t need to subjugate yourself to this humiliation
Start the argument
Disengage
Hey do you think it’s kind of weird and self aggrandizing that you named the whole website after yourself?
Disengage
To be fair, the instance is just on a subdomain of db0’s personal site.
I’d do the same to avoid paying for a domain name.But facts hurt Tankie feelings so you’re actually going to be banned from .ml and Hexbear for pointing that out.
oh, I’m sorry you are so upset but I promise I won’t ban you or irelephant for your ignorance.
happy to see I’m not the only one that’s still browsing this radioactive wasteland of a thread to keep dunking; if I fall, pick up my keyboard behind me
i usually lock these posts as they are sectarian but this one made it through my oppressive, authoritarian panopticon also known as my unhealthy amount of time on hexbear
I expect some spicy takes in the comments soon…
I’m popping my popcorn, I’ll be back later 🍿
You done gone and triggered the whole damn beehive!
100% chance of a hexbear brigade when we post something like this 😁 they literally cannot abide anarchists making fun of them in our own space.
Kinda fuckin sus that all of the people you ban and remove comments from don’t have said comments show up in your moderation history. As an anarchist I find this not just authoritarian but looking like you have something to hide.
Learn how lemmy works and then, shit bird.
Tankies <—> Liberals. Same thing, different imperial branding.
Well, that was quite entertaining.
You all act like lemmy ML and lemmygrad are the worst, and clowns of fedi, but you tend to ignore fact, that without them, there would be empty hole in our hearts, we would be unable to fill alone.
remember to love your local ML user, they are folks too
In the delths of their souls, they are little beautifull redaf butterflies ready to show their true shape and colors, they only need a bit of warm
It’s almost as if corrupt sociopaths are drawn to positions of authority regardless of stated values, and a vanguard party is no exception. Church, State, HOA, offer a crumb of power and bastards will say anything they can to snatch it up. The value of an organizational system has very little to do with its aspirations, and everything to do with the obstacles it erects to obstruct corruption. Build a dictatorship of the proletariat, and the proletariat will be abandoned by the dictatorship.
This sums up my thoughts on human behavior quite nicely. I really want to believe “true communism” is possible but I just don’t see how when power-hungry assholes exist. My thoughts are that it can only happen at small scales where you know everyone in your “tribe”. It’s far easier to oppress nameless strangers than it is to oppress Jenny with a heart condition a sick kid.
I’d be very interested in an honest answer about how this is handled from someone with more knowledge on communism.
It’s more that the user you replied to made a strawman of Marxist socialism.
First of all, “true” communism isn’t a thing, there’s no such thing as a pure system and to think of purity as a requirement is to make the perfect wonderland in out heads the enemy of flawed but real progressive movements.
Second of all, administration isn’t inherently corrupting, nor is it impossible to have democracy and recall elections in case of bad actors, like socialist states have.
Finally, the Marxist conception of communism, as a post-socialist system, can only be global, as class is only abolished when all property is collectivized and planned. A small-scale society cannot be “stateless” in the Marxist sense (though anarchism can exist, it uses different definitions of the state).
And of course here’s Hexbear posting about how they hate this place after they came here breaking the rules of our instance.
https://hexbear.net/comment/6307751 https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/48342361
Be warned @db0 they’re insulting you in there, because they’re such good, moral, and just socialists. Also mocking other users in here like @masquenox for not satisfying their debate bro tactics.
And here’s them admitting to lurking on the thread to Gotcha! and leap onto users.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/48132283/19880859
Hexbear, the totally innocent instance!
As is tradition. I don’t care though. They’re well known to constantly lie and misrepresent people they hate in their own comms. So long as they don’t come and shit in here.
Fair enough. If the hexbear defed is ever for a vote, I’d probably vote yes.
At this point, so probably would I. Funnily enough, they think my experience with KKE was what disillusioned me against MLs, but in truth I was never that much against them specifically instead of their ideology only. But my hexbear experiences and the absolute constant of bad faith, ableism, bullying and disinfo I see from them, made me far more wary of MLs as people.
The latest case of them not respecting requests for disengagement and goading people to be their lolcows is just the lowest they’ve ever fallen in my eyes.
Hexbear is a leftist colored KiwiFarms.
Man hexbear is pissed and just can’t help but defend their lust for authoritarians. Then ask for left unity when we won’t want to be with people who uncritically support China and North Korea.
Maybe someday hexbear will learn better but today isn’t that day.
They got so upset some of them resorted to ableism. Just astounding stuff.
I’ve seen them using ableist slurs, i try to report them when they do.
Such radical leftists they just use disabilities as insults.
And that guy who pretends that hexbear doesn’t tolerate ableism while you can hear crickets from them when Yog-something is, to paraphrase him, “calling into question the functioning of someone’s brain [which] is pretty neuronormative” in every other dot ml’s c/worldnews’ post… Pure gold 🤣
Edit: I can’t see replies from hexbear on piefed, but I’m still lurking the thread on db0.
So, Sphere laddie:
Yogthos isn’t a Hexbear, and .ml’s worldnews comm is not a Hexbear comm. Good try, though!
Since when did that prevent you folks from jumping at someone’s throat? You called out that pedo mod I don’t remember the name, then Nutransphobic. What prevents you from calling out Yogthos if not a lax stance on ableism?
Always good to fight other leftists as fascism closes its grip on the imperial core. Great strategy.
(Posts like this aren’t allowed on Hexbear, and for good reason. What value is there in shitstirring like this? Why be needlessly antagonistic? I really don’t get it.)
… You don’t get it?
This is an Anarchist instance.
Anarchists are extremely critical of the concept of ‘the State’ itself, tend to want to either totally abolish it, or at least strip it down so much or break it apart that it essentially isn’t a ‘State’ any more.
Tankies embrace, and essentially worship the State.
… Also, in basically every single recorded instance of a succesful or attempted leftist revolution in modern human history, tankies ally with anarchists to overthrow the existing State, and then murder all of them after they’ve established themselves as the new State or proto-State.
One could argue that it seems to be in the material interest of authoritarian statists to extend false allyship to ‘fellow leftists’, and then betray them as quickly as they abandon their ideal of a ‘classless society’ and begin to assert themselves as the new ruling class.
There’s a 101 level answer for your ‘why so antagonistic’ question.
Tankies historically cry ‘Unity! Unity!’ and do exactly what you are doing, trying to shame those who are skeptical… and then the rhetoric flips on a dime and the cry switches to ‘Purity! Faith!’
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Also worth noting is your framing of this as antagonistic in the first place.
I guess you find the evidence of history thus far to largely be antagonistic to your worldview?
I don’t know, I wouldn’t want to put words in your mouth, but that is my assumption.
I could be wrong though.
Ah yes, the evidence of history. Like all the successful anarchist revolutions?
I am not aware of any anarchists that even predict that some kind of anarchist revolution is any kind of inevitable.
And if there were some, I would disagree with them.
I am not purpoting to have some kind of perfect plan to ‘achieve anarchism’.
I don’t need to.
It’s ya’ll that tend to have a dogmatic, ideological faith in a perfect way to do things, that things should be done, that things inevitably will be done.
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Anyway, the evidence of history I am referring to is that basically all self described ‘Communist’ states/societies haven’t ever really come close to Marx’s utopian conception of a classless society at the proverbial ‘end’ of Communism…
They mostly either reform or transform themselves into a highly state-managed form of capitalism, or into something with less overt direct state control over a hybrid state/capitalist economy, allowing private businesses and capitalists to operate under fairly significant levels of regulation…
Both of those will almost always only ever allow a single political party, clamp down on freedom of political association/expression, speech, etc… these societies very much still do have significant wealth disparity, ergo, social classes.
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And those’re pretty much the best case scenarios.
They can also just collapse into… well basically, roughly fascism; a totalitarian, nationalistic, jingoistic central state that works with, grants favors to various capitalist oligarchs, corporations, as opposed to directly managing them or heavily regulating them…
In these societies, wealth disparity and thus class disparity tends to be even more significant… and they tend to put on a show of pretending to be liberal and democratic, though the extent of that effort ebbs and flows back toward social and governmental illiberalism over time.
It can get worse than that, but then we tend to get into ‘thats not real communism’ or basically just meme/schrodinger’s irony level argument territory, at least in my prior experience or discussions with tankies.
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I don’t have a problem admitting that no anarchist revolution has succeeded in making a stable anarchist society at the scope and scale of a nation-state, with some kind of … assumed authoritative forceful control over a defined physical region.
Partially because… that isn’t really what at least I personally view as any kind of useful goal of my idea of anarchism.
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If you doubt the history of tankies back stabbing anarchists… hold please, will update with source.
EDIT:
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ziq-tankies-and-the-left-unity-scam
There it is!
No sense in me retyping all of this myself.
EDIT 2:
Or maybe its this one:
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/various-authors-always-against-the-tanks/
This person’s works also include Burn the Bread Book, an anti-Anarcho-Communist screed in which they advocate for the end of civilization, and return to each person producing all their own food, an idea that is openly ecofascist and would kill billions, first and foremost a large number of disabled and chronically ill people.
I think you should carefully consider where your ideas are coming from.
People can can have some ideas or writings that are good, and some ideas or writings that are bad.
Other people can use their own brains to pick through those ideas on their own and formulate their own worldviews.
Which other genocidal anti-communist, anti-anarchist authors do you suggest have “some good ideas?”
imagine being a redfash and tarnishing someone else as a “genocidal anti-anarchist”
You’re just going to take what this redfash says at face value without reading the text yourself, and worse, repeat their smear?
It’s not a pro-genocide argument, it’s the direct opposite of that.
You don’t get it we’re not leftists, we’re red fascists.
Also
Yep, Russia did the thing.
In the meme image.
Authoritarian Communism broke, then it flipped back to Authoritarian Capitalism.
Yep, it had enemies.
Yep those enemies were very involved in helping it to break.
But this still is what happened.
Yep, it took a while.
Sorry the comic is ~80 years long?
Horrible line of reasoning. Anarchist projects have all reverted to capitalism much faster than the Soviet Union did.
Not without being conquered by fascists or red fash. I.e they’re internally consistent.
The USSR was also destroyed by encirclement and (nearly 100 years) of pressure from reactionaries.
But again, you and and the people on the comm you named after yourself are the ones hypocritically positing that any socialist project that fails is evidence that that project’s ideology inevitably leads to capitalist takeover. None of the “tankies” on Hexbear are saying that because it’s asinine, but if you actually believe it, to be ideologically consistent, would require condemning anarchism also.
red fash
Deeply unserious
The USSR was also destroyed by encirclement and (nearly 100 years) of pressure from reactionaries.
Yeah, right… it had absolutely nothing to do with the batshit-insane economic and social blundering of the CPSU.
Nothing at all.
It was literally the fastest growing economic system of all time. It went from wooden hand-drawn plows to spaceflight in a single generation, while defeating the most devastating invasion in human history. The nation once called “the India of Europe” became the first interplanetary civilization.
Then, after the entire collective might of the capitalist world had slaughtered dozens of millions of the bravest and most committed communists, it started falling apart because liberals took over. It was dissolved illegally, against the wishes of 70% of the population that voted in a referendum to keep the Union, in a bloody coup that killed over 2000 people fighting against its destruction. By the end of the 90s there had been 7-10 million excess deaths above the death rate of the 80s in Russia alone, making it one of the worst non-war human-caused humanitarian disasters of all time.
In short, the people of the USSR were revolutionaries and heroes, whereas you are a grotty little chauvinist from the imperial core who doesn’t want to improve the world, because if you did you would want to win, and if you wanted to win you would read history, and if you read history you would come to the same conclusion.
Commenting on the most commented* post in db0’s history!!!
That’s not even close. I have one with 1k+ angry hexbear comments
Which one is that?
Oof that was somewhere in autumn 2023
Wow! Where does the time go?
Since you’re here, You gonna do anything about all the ableist hexbears I keep having to ban from my comm, or nah?
Did you report the ableism? Also if you are compelled to make a bait post but don’t want to argue you can ping me and I will kindly use my admin powers to lock the post from the hexbear side allowing you to have a meme echo chamber ❤
Just for my own record I’ve started reading the post, I’ve come across you insulting someone’s reading comprehension which is ableist against those with dyslexia, insulting someone’s inability to read the room which is ableist against those with autism.
Again I’m sorry this has been such a stressful post for you, and I’m more than happy to work with you by using our admin and moderator tools to aid you in curating an online experience that is pleasing and relaxing
