I do think the EU should start with a more basic app like FluffyChat in testing but rebranded, then try to make their own app over the Matrix protocol that fits their specific communications needs and share that development publicly with open source.
The biggest problem with XMPP is what various servers and clients implement is kind of all over the place. For instance, most clients support an older version of OMEMO, but some clients support newer versions, and the different versions are incompatible.
The other issue is some platforms (iOS in particular) have pretty shitty XMPP apps filled with bugs.
I still generally like XMPP more than Matrix since ATM Matrix clients are also filled with bugs/laggy, Synapse (the main server implementation) is very resource heavy, and message syncing is kind of shit if the client doesn’t implement sliding sync (like FluffyChat). I personally think the UI for both XMPP and Matrix clients generally kind of suck, which isn’t great for convincing non-techy people to use them.
I mean, matrix is similar. So many official features aren’t supported by various clients, and then there are non official features that the clients do support, that aren’t supported by the official clients.
But matrix or XMPP, that problem is easily enough avoided at the “government rollout” level by standardising on a particular client and server combination
It’s good to have an easy model for communication between members of different trusted organizations without requiring everyone to create a new account on a different server.
I do think the EU should start with a more basic app like FluffyChat in testing but rebranded, then try to make their own app over the Matrix protocol that fits their specific communications needs and share that development publicly with open source.
German military uses matrix with their own messenger.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bwi.bwmessenger
Didn’t XMPP already solve these issues a long time ago?
The biggest problem with XMPP is what various servers and clients implement is kind of all over the place. For instance, most clients support an older version of OMEMO, but some clients support newer versions, and the different versions are incompatible.
The other issue is some platforms (iOS in particular) have pretty shitty XMPP apps filled with bugs.
I still generally like XMPP more than Matrix since ATM Matrix clients are also filled with bugs/laggy, Synapse (the main server implementation) is very resource heavy, and message syncing is kind of shit if the client doesn’t implement sliding sync (like FluffyChat). I personally think the UI for both XMPP and Matrix clients generally kind of suck, which isn’t great for convincing non-techy people to use them.
I mean, matrix is similar. So many official features aren’t supported by various clients, and then there are non official features that the clients do support, that aren’t supported by the official clients.
But matrix or XMPP, that problem is easily enough avoided at the “government rollout” level by standardising on a particular client and server combination
Ding ding ding. Make a Discord/Slack clone that does screensharing and drag/drop file sharing and I won’t care if it uses XMPP or Matrix
I think there have been some attempts to do so, but they’re just not good enough (and/or end up dead after a while).
This is a case where federation is nice.
It’s good to have an easy model for communication between members of different trusted organizations without requiring everyone to create a new account on a different server.
XMPP is federated
Any matrix client available for both android and ios with video conference capabilities?
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that might have sounded a bit too aggressive. My question is genuine. Family members needs.
Yeah. Compared to Teams, Matrix is fine. It’s just far from a powerful tool built by people who actually give a shit.