There are no nutrients that are exclusively available via meat/dairy. The only thing you might miss out on is B12, but that’s usually supplemented in a lot of the vegan substitutes/junk food alternatives already. Anything else you’ll get pretty easily by simply eating your regular veggies, beans, legumes etc.
If you truly care about nutrients, then get your blood tested and have them check what you are actually lacking, and then adjust or supplement your diet accordingly. Chances are that you are already low on something even when eating animal products.
Thanks for the advice, iirc I got my blood tested when I was doing some allergy tests so I’ll look at those and see what my levels were. I do know that I’m low on vitamin d cause I take a supplement for that
fuck thank you you just reminded me i needed to buy that one brand of nutritional yeast that is garlicky to try it on my popcorn. i cannot remember its name
There are no nutrients that are exclusively available via meat/dairy.
i.e. claimed that there are some nutrients that can only be sourced via meat or dairy.
An obligate carnivore must eat meat to live, like, say, if the only source of needed nutrients is meat?
Where did I lose you on this? Is it the “or dairy” escape hatch?
FFS, you could have just given an example of a nutrient you mistakenly think is only available via meat or dairy. Then I could have judged your post on its merits instead of this displeasure of a thread.
I’m not a nutritionist, but I know for a fact vitamin a, among others, is not made by plants. I think people should probably just talk to their health care professionals. strangers on the Internet need have no credentials, and often have motivated reasoning.
Humans synthesize Vitamin A from Beta Carotene in plants. Only a small minority of people who are genetically predisposed to less efficient conversion of Beta Carotene would need to supplement with the retinyl form (readily available in supplements)
The human diet contains two sources for vitamin A: preformed vitamin A (retinol and retinyl esters) and provitamin A carotenoids [1,5]. Preformed vitamin A is found in foods from animal sources, including dairy products, eggs, fish, and organ meats [1,2]. Provitamin A carotenoids are plant pigments that include beta-carotene, alpha-carotene, and beta-cryptoxanthin [1]. The body converts provitamin A carotenoids into vitamin A in the intestine via the beta-carotene monooxygenase type 1 BCMO1 enzyme [1,3,6], although conversion rates may have genetic variability
There are no nutrients that are exclusively available via meat/dairy. The only thing you might miss out on is B12, but that’s usually supplemented in a lot of the vegan substitutes/junk food alternatives already. Anything else you’ll get pretty easily by simply eating your regular veggies, beans, legumes etc.
If you truly care about nutrients, then get your blood tested and have them check what you are actually lacking, and then adjust or supplement your diet accordingly. Chances are that you are already low on something even when eating animal products.
Thanks for the advice, iirc I got my blood tested when I was doing some allergy tests so I’ll look at those and see what my levels were. I do know that I’m low on vitamin d cause I take a supplement for that
Exactly. Can get everything but b12 from plants. Can’t get fiber without plants though.
Tempeh and nutritional yeast are a good start there, but you may need supplements, yes.
fuck thank you you just reminded me i needed to buy that one brand of nutritional yeast that is garlicky to try it on my popcorn. i cannot remember its name
Could possibly buy or make garlic infused salt, then mix the two.
that’s not true
Are you sure about that? Got any examples of nutrients that make humans obligate carnivores?
I didn’t say that. you’ve constructed a straw man.
reductio ad absurdum, actually.
You claimed that this statement was not true:
i.e. claimed that there are some nutrients that can only be sourced via meat or dairy.
An obligate carnivore must eat meat to live, like, say, if the only source of needed nutrients is meat?
Where did I lose you on this? Is it the “or dairy” escape hatch?
FFS, you could have just given an example of a nutrient you mistakenly think is only available via meat or dairy. Then I could have judged your post on its merits instead of this displeasure of a thread.
Which ones are exclusive?
I’m not a nutritionist, but I know for a fact vitamin a, among others, is not made by plants. I think people should probably just talk to their health care professionals. strangers on the Internet need have no credentials, and often have motivated reasoning.
Humans synthesize Vitamin A from Beta Carotene in plants. Only a small minority of people who are genetically predisposed to less efficient conversion of Beta Carotene would need to supplement with the retinyl form (readily available in supplements)
Per the NIH:
strangers on the Internet need have no credentials, and often have motivated reasoning.
I think people should probably just talk to their health care professionals.
You can get vitamin A from carrots. That’s one of the reasons the British beat the Germans.
most people can synthesize vitamin a from precursors found in carrots. talk to your doctor