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      I thought this comment was going too far when you felt the need to mention they were from Israel, as though merely being born in a country is grounds to hate someone. But Jesus Christ, this is a hell of a lot of assumptions to make based solely on an individual’s nationality.

      I hate Israel’s genocidal government as much as the next guy, but this is just racism.

      Edit: Author of the above comment has retracted and apologized. Good on them.

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          I’m trying to be as charitable as possible, but I’d like you to provide a source for this assertion that Sakhnini has some connection to Israeli intelligence or the Israeli government besides being from Israel, otherwise your comments will be removed.

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            I’m sorry. I was angry with the current decisions, and haven’t been as careful as usual with verifying my sources.

            I still believe that nothing good will come of this, but I cannot prove that nationality will have anything to do with it.

            I have deleted my own comments, and will be more careful next time to avoid spreading rumor and misinformation.

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              Perfectly valid to be angry about Discord’s current behavior, as it’s absolutely terrible. I already cancelled my Nitro over this and am actively taking steps to be prepared to leave the whole thing if needed.

              Consequently, it’s worth mentioning that I don’t actually have any faith whatsoever in Discord’s current CEO. It’s just important to make sure that when we hate Israel’s treatment of Palestine, we don’t end up slipping into bigotry towards people just for being from the country and nothing more. Not every Israeli likes Israel’s actions. Plenty of teens have chosen prison over IDF draft, for example.

              With regard to that, then: I appreciate the self-awareness and de-escalation. Not easy to do, but always good to see. Thanks for that.

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              Hey, I appreciate your response. I totally get the anger, and I can see lots of possible ways that this wave of age verification policies could bite folks in the ass. Thanks for being reasonable, I hope you have a great day.

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    Count me in as one of the people who quits Discord over this. For my use case which is gaming with my friends we may as well just use Telegram for voice chat plus screen sharing.

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    Oh hey, the obvious thing we all knew was going to happen, happened.

    Can’t wait for absolutely nothing to be done to prevent this from happening again, especially as they push to make this mandatory for all users…

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      I’ve used it a couple times, what a dumpster fire of an app.

      Walked away years ago and refused to use it since.

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        Same. It looks like it was made for one thing, with parts added over time to add functionality. If you were there from the start, using it regularly, it would be fine, but to jump in now…

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          The original discord design for sharing text and voice and video between gamers in a reasonably sized group were great!

          Trying to scale that up and adding monetization features are what is running it into the ground.

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    I sure hope this is the end of Discord. Maybe only 10% of people will rage quit rather than show their ID, but if every group has one in 10 people they invite say “nah, that’s not happening” and everyone has to admit they’re probably in the right, it might make some difference.

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      In October, hackers stole government IDs of 70,000 Discord users from a third-party service that Discord previously trusted to verify ages in the United Kingdom and Australia.

      Different age check case

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    I suppose the next question is where will everyone go? If they wanted to keep kids safe this ain’t it because they’ll go somewhere else anyways. So it’s a lose/lose for everyone.

    Possibly a win for companies if they want to harvest data/sell it.

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      Uh…anywhere? There are plenty of alternatives that are less bloated and less shitty and faster.

      I honestly don’t even know why people use it.

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        The only times I’ve ever used Discord are for things that really should have been on a forum, issue tracker, or something like a lemmy community in the first place.

        I hope this causes a return to sanity, but I’m not holding my breath.

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        Ima be honest here. The last messaging service I used was Facebook back in 2012 prior to discord. And prior to Facebook was MSN messenger lol I really just don’t know what’s available. I’ll have to go do some reading

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          IRC is still alive and well, team speak for voice chats. Hell, Nextcloud even has these, as well as video calls.

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          yeah i actually just discovered this revival right before posting my comment. It’s really neat! Xfire and Discord are always linked in my mind, because i literally first installed Discord because my friends were moving over from Xfire. These days, Steam Chat can do almost everything that Xfire did, so there isn’t REALLY a reason for it to exist. But i love seein that ancient UI.

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            I had like 2 friends back in my CS 1.6 days that insisted on Xfire, but I paid for a Mumble server shortly after that. Might self host one again…

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    So, after reading several sources on this, it sounds like it’s going to be harder to access furry hentai, which one shouldn’t be doing on Discord in the first place.

    That has never been a private space. You want E2EE for anything spicy.