• Azrael@reddthat.com
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    21 hours ago

    I agree with you. The issue is that the people who have been fighting to keep the second amendment are the ones who are siding with and enabling the government. The pro-second amendment people are the ones who voted for Trump in the first place.

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      21 hours ago

      So? Are they the only ones allowed to buy guns? Or is the second amendment also for the Trump haters?

      When my government would turn complete authoritarian fascist, I would love it if I could just buy a gun in the local supermarket.

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        17 hours ago

        I’m assuming from the way your comment is worded that you’re not from the U.S.

        Blue states tend to have much stricter gun laws, as another user pointed out. For example, in California, “Assault Rifles” are banned. You most certainly cannot walk into a supermarket and buy an AR-15. As far as i’m aware, most major retailers including Walmart don’t sell guns at all in California. Even handguns have a maximum magazine capacity. No more than 10 rounds. Much less than your standard Glock or Sig Sauer.

        I’d also like to point out that “Buying a gun in the local supermarket” is a little bit of a misconception. It’s true that some superstores sell guns, but they aren’t right next to the milk and bread. They’re in locked cabinets in a specific part of the store where you’ll also find other hunting equipment. The whole point of a superstore/supermarket is that they sell everything in one place as opposed to the pre-supermarket days where you had to go to multiple different stores just to get your weekly shopping supplies.

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          Over here, we don’t need to buy guns with our weekly shopping supplies. We have liquor over 20% alcohol in a different section of the store. Can’t even buy cigarettes at the supermarket. Even slingshots and batons are illegal here. Did you know, with a 10 round magazine you can still kill 10 people before reloading? If your aim is right. That’s an acceptable amount? As those magazine sizes are allowed.

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            12 hours ago

            That’s what i’ve been saying for years. You don’t need a 30 round AR-15. A manual, 4 - 5 round bolt-action hunting rifle in the right hands can also be used for a mass shooting. Yet they’re completely legal in states like California. The only reason “Assault Rifles” (and I use quotation marks because the name “Assault Rifle” is based on a misconception) are so heavily regulated and labeled as having “evil features” is because they look scary. The AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle, NOT full auto. Functionally, it’s no different to a hunting rifle. Yet the media never shuts up about that one specific model of rifle.

            Looks Scary ≠ Lethality. I wish people would realize that.

            Criminals don’t follow the rules anyway, so you can put as many restrictions on guns as you want for all the difference it will make. At least here in the U.S.

            Unfortunately some people struggle to grasp that concept.

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              I’ve been in the military for 15 years. Semi auto is far more lethal than full auto. You control every bullet instead of emptying a full clip in a few seconds in spray mode, hitting with the first bullet and missing the rest. It’s just that you don’t know what the stray bullets hit.

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        20 hours ago

        Well for starters, we can’t just buy a gun in a supermarket. You seem to not actually know what you’re talking about and just get information from memes.

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        18 hours ago

        I would love it if I could just buy a gun in the local supermarket.

        The democrat states/cities have much harsher gun laws. The republican states/cities aren’t going to resist Trump.

        If more people would move to the left we would see more anti-fascist gun resistance (think Black Panther Party). But since people still believe that we can fix this decades-long decline by voting in the right Democrats, we’re going to have to learn the hard way.