I’m not a librarian, but my friends have realized I won’t die on a hill unless I can prove I’m right with citations. If I’m not super sure I’ll qualify things with “if I recall correctly” or “I’m pretty sure” while actively looking the thing up, and will say “nope sorry I was wrong/only partially correct, here’s the context I was missing”
I can now lie to them and, as long as I’m confident about it, have them 100% believe me. I wouldn’t do that, ofc, or I world have already and they wouldn’t be so trusting, but I could.
When I was in sales, I would tell my customers not to just believe me and buy immediately. They should go home, look up what I’m telling them, and then come back after verifying if I was offering the best product at a good price, because I was a salesman and you should never trust someone in sales.
Of course, that made them instantly trust me immensely, and they’d insist on buying on the spot because they wanted honest Chilie to get the commission.
What they should have done is gone home and looked things up. I was a salesman and I shouldn’t have been trusted.
It was an excellent product if I pushed it. I didn’t sell shitty stuff unless the customer demanded that specific product, and I’d always ask if they wanted to hear about alternatives.
I did not sell at a good price. I never actually lied, and was in fact very honest. But I used the trust created by that honesty to make sales that were not necessarily great deals for the customer.
Heh, I used to sell computers. If you spent 5 minutes with them explaining Mhz, MB, GB, in terms they could understand and how to go to each tag and understand where they stood in the lineup, I wasn’t on commission, I told them they could go anywhere and take those numbers and compare prices and make an informed decision apples to apples, they almost all immediately bought.
We did NOT generally have the best price, but would price match. They wouldn’t even look elsewhere. You know what you’re talking about, we’re sticking with YOU!
That one does 120 million things a second, this one is the newer chips, it bascially does two things at a time, so they’re both 120 but this one gets 240 million things done. This is the hard drive, it’s your file cabinet, this is the ram it’s your desktop. The file cabinets are huge, but you can only get a couple things out at a time if you don’t have enough desktop space. All these systems have 3 basic options, low, medium, high. Buy medium. It’ll last another year or two longer than low and the price isn’t that much more. If money is no concern, buy high, it’ll last the longest.
They all just made a quick decision and got the hell out.
Not a salesman personally but I was raised by one. I think he tried to get as good a deal for customers as he reasonably could, but the thing that’s always stuck with me is when he told me: “People don’t buy from me because I have the best deals. People buy from me to buy from me.”
Some salesmen may offer good or bad deals, but ultimately what they’re selling is themselves, their personality, their companionship to some degree. My dad could talk to anyone and build a relationship within an hour. It’s who he was, and he leveraged it to make a lot of money because his customers liked talking to him.
Buying through a commissioned salesman will likely always be at least a few percentage points more expensive than using an online portal, but there are a lot of people who will feel like it’s worth it if the salesman is doing their job right.
I made more in sales once I stopped giving a fuck and decided I was quitting (or ideally getting fired) the only question was when.
“I want you to give me your best price! I’m doing my shopping around and I’m going with whoever does me the best deal”
"No offence mate but why would I do that? So you can go to the next dealership with my price and tell them to beat it? Why dont you go to them, ask them for their best price and bring that back for me to beat?
“I cant believe this!”
“We all get them off the manufacturer for the same price. I dont mean any disrespect but I’m better off waiting for customers who desperately just want approval for the finance at sticker price. I’ll get you the best deal I possibly can but I’m not doing the work if you tell me you’re leaving no matter what.”
I actively mistrust people who don’t behave that way in an argument. If your response upon finding yourself to be wrong is something other than admitting you were wrong and correcting yourself, you can’t be trusted to set your ego aside.
wife: Why don’t you just believe me? Why do you always need to look it up. Why don’t you trust me.
me: I only look up stuff that doesn’t seem right. Would you rather I tell you why it doesn’t seem right to me, or have me look it up and leave you be right or wrong? Either way, I must know, and those worms are not going back in that can
I’m not a librarian, but my friends have realized I won’t die on a hill unless I can prove I’m right with citations. If I’m not super sure I’ll qualify things with “if I recall correctly” or “I’m pretty sure” while actively looking the thing up, and will say “nope sorry I was wrong/only partially correct, here’s the context I was missing”
I can now lie to them and, as long as I’m confident about it, have them 100% believe me. I wouldn’t do that, ofc, or I world have already and they wouldn’t be so trusting, but I could.
When I was in sales, I would tell my customers not to just believe me and buy immediately. They should go home, look up what I’m telling them, and then come back after verifying if I was offering the best product at a good price, because I was a salesman and you should never trust someone in sales.
Of course, that made them instantly trust me immensely, and they’d insist on buying on the spot because they wanted honest Chilie to get the commission.
What they should have done is gone home and looked things up. I was a salesman and I shouldn’t have been trusted.
So… were you generally offering it at a good price? Or did your career rely on the fact that they didn’t check
It was an excellent product if I pushed it. I didn’t sell shitty stuff unless the customer demanded that specific product, and I’d always ask if they wanted to hear about alternatives.
I did not sell at a good price. I never actually lied, and was in fact very honest. But I used the trust created by that honesty to make sales that were not necessarily great deals for the customer.
Heh, I used to sell computers. If you spent 5 minutes with them explaining Mhz, MB, GB, in terms they could understand and how to go to each tag and understand where they stood in the lineup, I wasn’t on commission, I told them they could go anywhere and take those numbers and compare prices and make an informed decision apples to apples, they almost all immediately bought.
We did NOT generally have the best price, but would price match. They wouldn’t even look elsewhere. You know what you’re talking about, we’re sticking with YOU!
That one does 120 million things a second, this one is the newer chips, it bascially does two things at a time, so they’re both 120 but this one gets 240 million things done. This is the hard drive, it’s your file cabinet, this is the ram it’s your desktop. The file cabinets are huge, but you can only get a couple things out at a time if you don’t have enough desktop space. All these systems have 3 basic options, low, medium, high. Buy medium. It’ll last another year or two longer than low and the price isn’t that much more. If money is no concern, buy high, it’ll last the longest.
They all just made a quick decision and got the hell out.
Not a salesman personally but I was raised by one. I think he tried to get as good a deal for customers as he reasonably could, but the thing that’s always stuck with me is when he told me: “People don’t buy from me because I have the best deals. People buy from me to buy from me.”
Some salesmen may offer good or bad deals, but ultimately what they’re selling is themselves, their personality, their companionship to some degree. My dad could talk to anyone and build a relationship within an hour. It’s who he was, and he leveraged it to make a lot of money because his customers liked talking to him.
Buying through a commissioned salesman will likely always be at least a few percentage points more expensive than using an online portal, but there are a lot of people who will feel like it’s worth it if the salesman is doing their job right.
I made more in sales once I stopped giving a fuck and decided I was quitting (or ideally getting fired) the only question was when.
“I want you to give me your best price! I’m doing my shopping around and I’m going with whoever does me the best deal”
"No offence mate but why would I do that? So you can go to the next dealership with my price and tell them to beat it? Why dont you go to them, ask them for their best price and bring that back for me to beat?
“I cant believe this!”
“We all get them off the manufacturer for the same price. I dont mean any disrespect but I’m better off waiting for customers who desperately just want approval for the finance at sticker price. I’ll get you the best deal I possibly can but I’m not doing the work if you tell me you’re leaving no matter what.”
I actively mistrust people who don’t behave that way in an argument. If your response upon finding yourself to be wrong is something other than admitting you were wrong and correcting yourself, you can’t be trusted to set your ego aside.
wife: X is Y
me: …
also me: whips out phone
wife: Why don’t you just believe me? Why do you always need to look it up. Why don’t you trust me.
me: I only look up stuff that doesn’t seem right. Would you rather I tell you why it doesn’t seem right to me, or have me look it up and leave you be right or wrong? Either way, I must know, and those worms are not going back in that can