I think @AntiBullyRanger@ani.social is genuine in wanting resistance, but is failing to see that in practice it will mean no resistance. I never said electoralism is all we need. I am saying that it is a form of organizing and one that bring credibility to our movement. It shows numbers and willingness to act in a way that is political and explicit in its goals.
How do you organize in a system meant to disorganize⸮
I think you’re unwilling to directly organize outside of the systems that oppress us. You keep adamantly avoiding my questions, as if I do not see how 🇺🇲 has historically genocided Leftists. Our goals have been explicit from the start, yet, how did you treat us?
Again, what are the Leftist party in 🇺🇲 I can “vote for”?
You have literally asked why we don’t have a party and you have spent the thread telling me you wouldn’t vote for it. Can’t have a movement if people no show for it. Part of how you organize is elections. Anyway its getting tedious to repeat the point I am making, so unless you have something real to add this is going to be the last reply.
It’s pointless trying to converse with these types of people, man. They’re just the left version of “maga” with purity tests, and refusing to be a part of a System that requires engagement to change.
No bub, you organize by intersecting, solidarity, and helping the ailing. Elections is how you got Donald Trump elected twice, firstly unpopular. Since you are historically illiterate, I feel I won’t be aided in defortifying deathcamps with you right this moment, so good luck on your suicide this midterms.
Very simple dear, refresh my responses to IC2: the electoralist is perfectly aware 🇺🇲 is about to implement Reichstagsbrandverordnung in order to genocide all political opponents this 🇺🇲midterms.
Wait, you legit believe popular votes actually elect presidents‽
Doesn’t matter. It is a form of organizing. And if you have the popular vote it is also obvious and the momentum is there to force a change by popular uprising.
Are you going to join me in demolishing one?
I am questioning your commitment to organizing to take one down. Can’t even get you to show up to a lower stakes polling place, but you are going to lay siege to a fortified camp? Sure bud.
Bro if you can’t be bothered to vote I have no confidence you will show up to back me up with a rifle.
Wait, you legit believe popular votes actually elect presidents‽
I don’t even want riffles when you have comrades suffering in deathcamps.
Are you going to join me in demolishing one?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but are you saying your position is “don’t vote don’t resist”? Because that’s what this sounds like.
I think @AntiBullyRanger@ani.social is genuine in wanting resistance, but is failing to see that in practice it will mean no resistance. I never said electoralism is all we need. I am saying that it is a form of organizing and one that bring credibility to our movement. It shows numbers and willingness to act in a way that is political and explicit in its goals.
How do you organize in a system meant to disorganize⸮
I think you’re unwilling to directly organize outside of the systems that oppress us. You keep adamantly avoiding my questions, as if I do not see how 🇺🇲 has historically genocided Leftists. Our goals have been explicit from the start, yet, how did you treat us?
Again, what are the Leftist party in 🇺🇲 I can “vote for”?
None as we have neglected to form one.
Now, you are denying history. And my direct affiliation which we formed.
Any more electoralist sentiments you want you say?
You have literally asked why we don’t have a party and you have spent the thread telling me you wouldn’t vote for it. Can’t have a movement if people no show for it. Part of how you organize is elections. Anyway its getting tedious to repeat the point I am making, so unless you have something real to add this is going to be the last reply.
It’s pointless trying to converse with these types of people, man. They’re just the left version of “maga” with purity tests, and refusing to be a part of a System that requires engagement to change.
You strawmanned this all on your own bub.
No bub, you organize by intersecting, solidarity, and helping the ailing. Elections is how you got Donald Trump elected twice, firstly unpopular. Since you are historically illiterate, I feel I won’t be aided in defortifying deathcamps with you right this moment, so good luck on your suicide this midterms.
Read my profile for awhile.
I am saying something far more clear InternetCitizen2 is unwilling to commit.
You may think you are, but your weird anchor text advert style of writing is quite confusing and honestly a little infuriating.
It doesn’t even seem to be related to what’s being talked about, which kinda makes me wonder what the point is.
Yeah, this person seems to be whataboutism personified.
If you mean IC2, sure.
If you mean me, why aren’t you demolishing deathcamps too?
Very simple dear, refresh my responses to IC2: the electoralist is perfectly aware 🇺🇲 is about to implement Reichstagsbrandverordnung in order to genocide all political opponents this 🇺🇲midterms.
Instead of actually doing direct acts against the rise of Nazism in🇺🇲, IC2 is preferring to coalesce the Deutschnationale Volkspartei coalition.
I see the Nazi praxis being reformed, instead of the antifascist acts.
Doesn’t matter. It is a form of organizing. And if you have the popular vote it is also obvious and the momentum is there to force a change by popular uprising.
I am questioning your commitment to organizing to take one down. Can’t even get you to show up to a lower stakes polling place, but you are going to lay siege to a fortified camp? Sure bud.
pfffffpft Ok electoralist, where is your “uprise”? Where’s 🇺🇲 antifa alliance?
Demolished, by your own administration.
All you had to say you’re preparing my coffin.
So you’re purposely confusing Guantanamo for barewired fences? Which of these deathcamps I linked had fortifications again? Remind me “bro bud”