Are they though? How about this, can you still call yourself anti-genocide if you vote for the candidate who puts forth a slower, more well marketted genocide where the same bullets in children and attacks still happen, just with a lot of stern faces and some hand wringing?
can you still call yourself anti-genocide if you vote for the candidate who puts forth a slower, more well marketted genocide
I mean, yes, objectively? Mathematically, only a Democrat or a Republican can win the United States general election. If you can use your influence to vote for Less Genocide instead of More Genocide, that is what electoral anti-genocide is. You don’t have to like it, but those are the options.
abbotsbury, thats not how it works. Lets see if we can model this another way.
By your accounting if a Democratic party candidate said if elected they’d rape 1 kid and the republican said theyd rape 2 kids, you’d count your support of the single-kid rapist as not supporting any kid-rape at all. You’d claim your hands are clean–pristine even. – because you “minimized harm”. And yet a kid would lie raped there with your explicit support having helped it to happen.
By my accounting they are both kid rapists. End of story. Thats both my accounting and enough of the massive democratic party progressives wing that “centrists” who think like you do will never win another election again. Being slightly less evil is not enough to win elections, and its not the same thing as being worthy of coexisting peacefully and leading in our society. Does you understand this? Some things like kid rape and genocide are not to be tolerated at all, whether its part of harm minimization or not.
Who are these leftist policy politicians that leftists refuse to vote for? I have a suspicion that what you’re referring to as leftist policy is actually liberal policy, and you either don’t understand or care to make the distinction.
Half of the things on that list were directly accomplished in small parts by the Biden and Obama admins, despite having 48 or less DNC in over 13 years. The problem with your claim is that anybody with a browser can see for themselves that you’re trying to revise history.
They had 50 for biden’s first two years. At least, those are the numbers when you aren’t playing stupid dishonest semantic games and not counting two independents who caucus with democrats.
And since you’re going to go there if I don’t head it off right now, Lieberman was not in the senate during those two years, so pivoting to him like he isn’t one of your personal heroes for working with centrist democrats like Ben Nelson to kill the public option isn’t relevant. I’m saying this because you tried to pull that shit last time I called you out on this “tHeY oNlY hAd 48” lie.
So where are all the leftist voters then?
Right on the table where democrats keep leaving them.
I said voters, if those people aren’t voting, then they aren’t leftist voters.
I think you might be working with a different definition of ‘left’
Leftist people voting for the best of limited options are still leftist voters.
Are they though? How about this, can you still call yourself anti-genocide if you vote for the candidate who puts forth a slower, more well marketted genocide where the same bullets in children and attacks still happen, just with a lot of stern faces and some hand wringing?
I mean, yes, objectively? Mathematically, only a Democrat or a Republican can win the United States general election. If you can use your influence to vote for Less Genocide instead of More Genocide, that is what electoral anti-genocide is. You don’t have to like it, but those are the options.
abbotsbury, thats not how it works. Lets see if we can model this another way.
By your accounting if a Democratic party candidate said if elected they’d rape 1 kid and the republican said theyd rape 2 kids, you’d count your support of the single-kid rapist as not supporting any kid-rape at all. You’d claim your hands are clean–pristine even. – because you “minimized harm”. And yet a kid would lie raped there with your explicit support having helped it to happen.
By my accounting they are both kid rapists. End of story. Thats both my accounting and enough of the massive democratic party progressives wing that “centrists” who think like you do will never win another election again. Being slightly less evil is not enough to win elections, and its not the same thing as being worthy of coexisting peacefully and leading in our society. Does you understand this? Some things like kid rape and genocide are not to be tolerated at all, whether its part of harm minimization or not.
Say people who do like it.
Irrelevant, still the anti-genocide vote.
So are people who agree with leftist policies but not with right-wing liberal democrats.
Careful now, purity tests abound.
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Who are these leftist policy politicians that leftists refuse to vote for? I have a suspicion that what you’re referring to as leftist policy is actually liberal policy, and you either don’t understand or care to make the distinction.
DNC platform:
Bodily autonomy
Tax the rich
Remove money from politics
Healthcare for all
Regulating industries
Protecting the environment
Renewable power
That’s not borne out by their actions in office. Their actions in office indicate that their platform is genocide and nothing else.
Make all the excuses you want. You know better.
Half of the things on that list were directly accomplished in small parts by the Biden and Obama admins, despite having 48 or less DNC in over 13 years. The problem with your claim is that anybody with a browser can see for themselves that you’re trying to revise history.
Keep parroting this lie. It shows how honest you are in all other things.
Which year did they have more?
They had 50 for biden’s first two years. At least, those are the numbers when you aren’t playing stupid dishonest semantic games and not counting two independents who caucus with democrats.
And since you’re going to go there if I don’t head it off right now, Lieberman was not in the senate during those two years, so pivoting to him like he isn’t one of your personal heroes for working with centrist democrats like Ben Nelson to kill the public option isn’t relevant. I’m saying this because you tried to pull that shit last time I called you out on this “tHeY oNlY hAd 48” lie.