• IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.org
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    10 hours ago

    “Leftists” that were saying this knowingly support trump. They’re accelrrationist who want conditions to get so bad that their ideas actually seem good.

    Harris was a good candidate her platform was progressive and pragmatic. There was very very little to complain about with her. Thats why the right and “left” had to work extra hard to undermine her. Look at how hard all the .ml on this site were working pre election to convince people not to vote. It was insane, any post that was positive about biden or Harris of waltz was met with a barrage of insane accusation and misinfo.

    But i dont think the left undermining dems was a deciding factor. I think it was rights pro trump narrative that was way to strong. Trump dominated every media space. If you were in male spaces pro trump quips were fucking everywhere you’d be watching a YouTuber who was non political for 10years then suddenly he would say something like “but trumps economy was damn good” or something about biden beinf asleep at the wheel. That stuff influences voters more than political ads and old media celebs.

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      There was very very little to complain about with her.

      • Promising full military support to a settler colony currently committing a genocide using US weapons
      • Campaigning with fucking Cheneys and pandering to fascists
      • Not promising any actual support for trans people, stopping at “I will follow the law”
      • Abandoning universal healthcare push
      • Not being actually voted on by anyone, instead just appointed by DNC
      • Most importantly: she’s a neolib, and the working class has been suffering materially due to neolib policies for the past 50 years, people want change

      There is a shitton to complain about her. If you are knowingly pushing the idea she was a good candidate you’re a genocide enabler.

      I would’ve voted for her if I was in the US (because the alternative is slightly worse in many ways). But, moral qualms aside, it’s crazy to just shove a status-quo establishment neoliberal and expect people who are surviving paycheck-to-paycheck due to that very ideology to be excited about it.

    • skisnow@lemmy.ca
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      3 hours ago

      They’re accelrrationist who want conditions to get so bad that their ideas actually seem good.

      I’ve seen this claim made a few times before, and it’s never accompanied by a shred of evidence.

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        39 minutes ago

        Have you ever been to a tankie instance here on lemmy? You should try and broaden your horizons, because it sounds like you are arguing from ignorance.

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          28 minutes ago

          LOL, the sole one single point I made in my post is that I only ever see assertions without evidence, and your response is a bit of handwaving and an ad hominem. Thanks for demonstrating my point so perfectly.

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          1 hour ago

          Literally anything other than bad faith conspiracy-theory assertions, please.