• SalamenceFury@piefed.social
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    15 days ago

    are committing them in the name of liberation

    Brother, they themselves know they can’t win AND they’re also a Mossad asset. They only managed to do Oct. 7th because Netanyahu allowed it AND they expected the world to stop Israel after they inevitably responded with even more violence. They also torture and kill actual leftists. You CAN, in fact, not support the movement spearheaded by religious fascists started by their own enemies to undermine an actual worker’s movement, even if their enemies are 20 times worse.

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      You CAN, in fact, not support the movement spearheaded by religious fascists started by their own enemies to undermine an actual worker’s movement, even if their enemies are 20 times worse.

      I am keenly aware of that, yes. Which is why I DON’T.

      The closest I ever get to it is when pointing out to Zionists that them existing and committing fewer atrocities DOESN’T make the apartheid regime and its actions legitimate.

      You don’t need to endorse them or their actions to do that, so I don’t.

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      The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) and Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) are leftists and collaborate with Hamas . It is so idiotic to focus on Hamas first then Israel when it is Israel who want all Palestinians expulsed from their land . People do not support Hamas ideology they support exclusively there armed resistance for liberation. I am pretty sure if the occupation end most people will not want Hamas in power and would even support holding the remaining leadership accountable

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        That, my friends, is how you end up getting executed after you’re done being useful. As an anarchist you should know firsthand about how collaborating with fascists, red or not, gets you nothing but a bullet to the back of the head and a mass grave.

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          Israel is the occupier yet your problem is with the imperfect resistance groups. Do you know that vietcong was also killing and torturing oponents would you have supported the occupiers the american terrorists?

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            It’s not the fact they’re imperfect, it’s that fact that historically, ANY LEFTIST that collaborated with either stalinists or fascist resistance groups always, and I mean ALWAYS, ended up dead. You’re essentially saying as a white first worlder that Palestinian leftists should just risk their own well being to ally with fascists that ARE GOING to kill them once they’re no longer useful to the cause.

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              The fact is that hamas is the one who is replying to israel occupation if you don’t have a nuanced view of resisting groups you are supporting the occupier