• village604@adultswim.fan
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    2 days ago

    Jobs might have been a massive cunt, but he absolutely pushed Apple to innovate. They haven’t really done anything innovative since Jobs died besides the VR headset.

    • Maki@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      13 hours ago

      You’re wrong on Steve Jobs.

      Steve Wozniak made the Apple I design, after which the Apple Industrial Design Group took over, with Jerry Manock at the helm. Jerry Manock together with Terry Oyama made the Apple II, III, and early Macintoshes, with Jobs on the side.

      That design team also had Bill Dresselhaus (responsible for the Lisa) and Rob Gemmell (responsible for the Apple IIe & IIc) who worked alone on their designs with Jobs simply signing off on them after having seen them.

      The Snow White design language which was iconic for Apple’s style throughout the late 80s was developed out of house by German-American Hartmut Esslinger’s Frog Design. Again, Jobs simply signed off on them and let the design team do their thing.

      Jobs was more of a business strategist and knew he could put his face and name to the product so people would flock to it. This focus on making money over just making good products was why Wozniak had a falling out with him.

      Tl;dr: innovation came from other people. Jobs just put his name and face to it.

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        12 hours ago

        There’s a difference between having a vision and personally creating it.

        I fully acknowledge that Jobs was not an engineer and did not create any of the devices, but the person running the company has a great deal of influence on the people doing the work.

        Jobs pushed his people to innovate while Cook just had them pump out iterative garbage. He’s still a shit human, but Apple wouldn’t be in the position it’s in without him.