• Grimy@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    My whole point is that I can’t find sources. I can’t find any actually reasoning behind it. I already looked.

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      6 hours ago

      I don’t have time to retrace it all. I know the right are saying he is left leaning but when it all came out his family were known members of some fringe ultra right wing hate group. Nothing I’ve seen since this has suggested its any different. You might start by looking at articles from around the the time it happened. Anything you see later than a few weeks after it happened is being produced for the bias of whoever is writing it. They can’t charge him federally and its really got trump and them mad.

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        If you don’t have time to “retrace it all” it’s much better to say nothing instead of spreading misinformation.

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          I remember what I read. If you don’t like that I recalled it and commented on it on lemmy shitpost you should just ignore me and not comment. heh.

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        It seems like we are at a stale mate since I’m saying their isn’t any proper proof and you’re saying you don’t have time to find it.

        I don’t give much credence to what his family’s beliefs were, he had moved out by then and it’s very possible his views had changed from theirs.

        I don’t know about trump specifically, but I do know the right doesn’t like him, mostly because they think he was a leftist. It’s weird that both sides claim he belongs to the other and neither has anything but conjecture about it.

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          Raised as a Mormon in a red state and people want to say he was not conservative. People are really stupid I guess.

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            They’re whole subs dedicated to people that have left Mormonism. The views ones parents hold aren’t strictly inescapable.

            What’s the church of latter day Saints view on dating transfolk? I’d attribute more importance to who he was dating then what his dad thought, no?

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              Did he leave the church, did he have his name removed from their rolls? Was he on one of these sites?

              And no, I would not attribute his worldview to who he supposedly dated last.

              Source: My wife’s sister came out and then went right back in the closet so she could attend her daughter’s temple wedding.

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                I was raised Christian and am still on the church’s equivalent of their rolls. I can also tell you I only have hate for the church. Your anecdote seems to imply no one can stop being Mormon?

                How is what rolls he is on more important than who he is banging anyways?

                Not that anything is certain but speculations don’t equal truth just because it fits the narrative you are pinning for.

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                  I am just going off basic logic along with a deep understanding of the Mormon religion. The only artificial narrative that is being constructed is by you.

                  I get skepticism, but you clearly have your own agenda here.

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                    I feel like the evidence points to being left but just by a bit. After looking into it, it seems his family said as much and his texts indicated he did it because he was tired of the hate Kirk spread. Not really gopher mentality.

                    But even the texts and his relationship are on shaky grounds, the administration can’t really be trusted and it’s definitely muddy.

                    My guess is the gopher thing was run by the gov because having an other Luigi glorified would lead to open season on the Nazis. But it’s really just a guess.

                    Could be the other way around completely but something’s definitely fishy. There was just enough released to get both sides going at each other and then nothing. The trials going on and nothing’s coming out of that either.

                    I’m not a bot with an agenda, I’m just conspiracy oriented lol.