Anyway, I tend to speak pretty tersely when I’m soapboxing, so don’t take it personally.

I try not to ever take it personally. I only get annoyed if insults or character attacks are the only thing a person has to post as its intellectually boring. I don’t find discussing my flawed character interesting other than maybe for context for further good faith discussion. You can be as mean to me as much as you want as long as your responses have substance otherwise, and I appreciate the substance of yours. Its rare.

You wouldn’t (I imagine) because you’re thinking about personal freedom over community health.

This gets at the core of the issue yes. That would be correct. No one chooses to be here and we are all individually expected to serve the whole or suffer. I feel a deep chasm between me and people who think that’s perfectly fine or good, which is most people.

I don’t think individuals owe the collective anything. I in fact think the collective owes the individuals.

I know there are people like myself as well and I similarly sympathize with them. So this isn’t a selfish “woe is me”. Its a sense of injustice that anyone must bow to social sources of power of any kind on any “moral” ground. Individuals don’t owe the world anything, the world has more responsibility for the individual’s existence than vice versa, the world should take responsibility for the individuals it fosters the birth of.

I’m probably not be misanthrope, but I might be a “misallist”.