Even if they keep the screen black for 30 second to a minute, I’d still gladly wait in silence than be subjected to advertisements.
If they ever make it impossible to watch videos without first watching ads, then I’ll just leave the platform. I have no loyalty to YouTube and I’ll sooner dump the platform and move on to other video sites than deal with enshittification and ads.
Actually most of my videos are just boring things that I find interesting, and I get just as many views on there as I did on YouTube. And the autocaptions are waaaaaay better.
What I like about peertube is it’s just people uploading for the love of it, not content farms and AI slop chasing a quick buck.
Edit: oh yeah and not having multiple ads on my videos.
But they offer an ad free plan that isn’t expensive, and the service is really fast and reliable, and comes with YouTube music as well. Why pay for streaming sites that still give you ads like amazon or peacock, but won’t pay for YouTube?
Why pay for streaming sites that still give you ads like amazon or peacock
I don’t? Anyone who pays for a service to show them ads is a rube?
I would actually consider paying for a service like Youtube if it truly was as simple as that, but it isn’t. Even if they aren’t showing ads after your buy premium, they are still collecting, training on, and selling your data and habits. This is payment. I don’t believe in double-dipping; if I’m already paying in my data, then I’m not going to give you money or watch your ads.
If you want to show ads without harvesting data or offer a way to pay monetarily that stops ads and data harvesting, then I’ll watch ads or buy. But I absolutely do no accept double-dipping. If I’m already paying, I’m not paying again.
I love ad free music on my car, and no ads on my phone and pc, i and support company’s they allow my to get this service. You enjoy pricing every company is right to go to the ad models because people won’t pay for the ad free versions.
Not expensive? I just checked. It’s 8€/m for me. Which means 96€/year.
Maybe that’s not expensive for the USAians that earn hundreds of thousands per year. But it is expensive to just remove a few ads that can be easily blocked. It won’t even stop the Google tracking, it just stops the ads on YouTube. An ad blocker will also block the tracking.
I don’t pay for streaming sites. 🏴☠️ And I definitely won’t give YouTube any money. I’ve always been able to browse their videos without paying a cent. I’m not about to start now.
Besides, I don’t like how everything has become subscription services nowadays. You used to be able to pay once and own a product. Now you need to pay monthly to have temporary access to a constantly changing library. No thanks, I’ll only spend money on things I can own forever.
The way I see it, don’t make your thing free for 20 years if you want people to pay for it. At this point, it’s as natural and free as a summer’s breeze in our minds.
not OP but personally I watch maybe 2h of YT /month. Because I only watch one dude who posts about monthly, then the rest is just random links I’m clicking from a post or something. I donate to the guy periodically. The other links half of them are news clips or something that I could prob just get from their site.
The one-size model just doesn’t fit my use case. I’d pay for a per-time-watched plan if it was reasonably priced but it doesn’t even exist.
Honestly I could do without it entirely. Personally.
I’m fine with waiting 10 seconds at the beginning of a video. I wonder how much YouTube would save (by reducing bandwidth, smaller caches, choosing slower storage) if they didn’t have the goal to start the video virtually immediately.
You can tell they’re deliberately causing the delay by the way it pops up instantly and sends you to a page about turning off adblockers. The experiencing interruptions message used to send you to a page about ISP network performance…
“Experiencing interruptions? Find out why” - Naah I’m fine dude, just take your time.
I’m watching a 4h video. I can wait 5 seconds for it to load 😂
Very well knowing why and watching them do their stalling is indeed fine.
Every time you are reminded how petty they are.
Oh no! The video is black for a few seconds instead of showing several ads for a minute! Whatever am I going to do???
Even if they keep the screen black for 30 second to a minute, I’d still gladly wait in silence than be subjected to advertisements.
If they ever make it impossible to watch videos without first watching ads, then I’ll just leave the platform. I have no loyalty to YouTube and I’ll sooner dump the platform and move on to other video sites than deal with enshittification and ads.
Yep. Then it will be time to finally start exploring peertube or something…
i wish peertube had more/better discovery tools
The problem isnt discovery its content. There isnt much good content on there. You’ll find the good stuff pretty quickly.
I take that personally :(
Actually most of my videos are just boring things that I find interesting, and I get just as many views on there as I did on YouTube. And the autocaptions are waaaaaay better.
What I like about peertube is it’s just people uploading for the love of it, not content farms and AI slop chasing a quick buck.
Edit: oh yeah and not having multiple ads on my videos.
But they offer an ad free plan that isn’t expensive, and the service is really fast and reliable, and comes with YouTube music as well. Why pay for streaming sites that still give you ads like amazon or peacock, but won’t pay for YouTube?
I don’t? Anyone who pays for a service to show them ads is a rube?
I would actually consider paying for a service like Youtube if it truly was as simple as that, but it isn’t. Even if they aren’t showing ads after your buy premium, they are still collecting, training on, and selling your data and habits. This is payment. I don’t believe in double-dipping; if I’m already paying in my data, then I’m not going to give you money or watch your ads.
If you want to show ads without harvesting data or offer a way to pay monetarily that stops ads and data harvesting, then I’ll watch ads or buy. But I absolutely do no accept double-dipping. If I’m already paying, I’m not paying again.
So you watch ads and get your data collected? That’s crazy.
No, I don’t watch ads?
Crazy how they keep having to put words in others’ mouths to have something to argue against.
Fixed that for ya.
“Actually I like getting cucked by YouTube” - you
I love ad free music on my car, and no ads on my phone and pc, i and support company’s they allow my to get this service. You enjoy pricing every company is right to go to the ad models because people won’t pay for the ad free versions.
Not expensive? I just checked. It’s 8€/m for me. Which means 96€/year.
Maybe that’s not expensive for the USAians that earn hundreds of thousands per year. But it is expensive to just remove a few ads that can be easily blocked. It won’t even stop the Google tracking, it just stops the ads on YouTube. An ad blocker will also block the tracking.
I used to pay for YT.
I quit because they were very anti-creator and i did not support the changes they were making.
I don’t pay for streaming sites. 🏴☠️ And I definitely won’t give YouTube any money. I’ve always been able to browse their videos without paying a cent. I’m not about to start now.
Besides, I don’t like how everything has become subscription services nowadays. You used to be able to pay once and own a product. Now you need to pay monthly to have temporary access to a constantly changing library. No thanks, I’ll only spend money on things I can own forever.
I just dont trust them not to use the payment and account info to track me more for every other ad they serve.
They get nothing.
Well i hope you didn’t send this message from an android phone or Windows 11.
We truly live in a society, don’t we.
The way I see it, don’t make your thing free for 20 years if you want people to pay for it. At this point, it’s as natural and free as a summer’s breeze in our minds.
It’s still free though. The paid version is just an ad free version. YouTube had always had ads for the free version.
not OP but personally I watch maybe 2h of YT /month. Because I only watch one dude who posts about monthly, then the rest is just random links I’m clicking from a post or something. I donate to the guy periodically. The other links half of them are news clips or something that I could prob just get from their site.
The one-size model just doesn’t fit my use case. I’d pay for a per-time-watched plan if it was reasonably priced but it doesn’t even exist.
Honestly I could do without it entirely. Personally.
Oh that’s why it says this? Guess I’ll block this message too.
I’m fine with waiting 10 seconds at the beginning of a video. I wonder how much YouTube would save (by reducing bandwidth, smaller caches, choosing slower storage) if they didn’t have the goal to start the video virtually immediately.
That feature isn’t built into YT? I have it set on my browser to where the video needs to be manually started (excluding playlists).
My point was: You don’t need to wait for it to buffer or even load. Once the page is there, the video is playable.
I don’t know why this just happens on my laptop. Probably it’s because it has a slower CPU. Also, this website shouldn’t be this bloated
Bloat + they default to that message after a timer + they intentionally throttle users using adblock
Just using Firefox triggers the throttle too.
You can tell they’re deliberately causing the delay by the way it pops up instantly and sends you to a page about turning off adblockers. The experiencing interruptions message used to send you to a page about ISP network performance…