Honestly, they seem a lot less shitty culturally in general (less take-over-the-world-y). It’s not a guarantee, of course, but they’re probably less likely to do that.
Also (and perhaps more importantly), once you’re on any alternative init, you can move between init systems pretty easily (though you may have to rewrite any custom scripts you wrote, sysvinit scripts should be compatible with everything). It’s just the init system you’re swapping out, and not all sorts of random system stuff like systemd’s got its tentacles into.
We use OpenRC on stock Debian. It actually works pretty well, and I’m REALLY hoping it stays that way.
Ditto. I run OpenRC{,-init} on Gentoo and it’s really simple. Even managed to swap my system to systemd to prove intune can be run (that garbage links directly to systemd, unfortunately). Proved my point, it didn’t go anywhere, now back to openrc.
Once it clicks how much cruft you don’t even compile in - and as such how much cruft cannot be exploited - there’s no going back.
The only arch machine I have left is the one for steam - couldn’t be bothered to add multilib to my binhost. But even that seems to be on the path of deprecation as I’ve read this morning about wine releasing wow64 support. I think the day of 100% Gentoo infra in my household is actually getting close!
Honestly, they seem a lot less shitty culturally in general (less take-over-the-world-y). It’s not a guarantee, of course, but they’re probably less likely to do that.
Also (and perhaps more importantly), once you’re on any alternative init, you can move between init systems pretty easily (though you may have to rewrite any custom scripts you wrote, sysvinit scripts should be compatible with everything). It’s just the init system you’re swapping out, and not all sorts of random system stuff like systemd’s got its tentacles into.
We use OpenRC on stock Debian. It actually works pretty well, and I’m REALLY hoping it stays that way.
– Frost
Ditto. I run OpenRC{,-init} on Gentoo and it’s really simple. Even managed to swap my system to systemd to prove intune can be run (that garbage links directly to systemd, unfortunately). Proved my point, it didn’t go anywhere, now back to openrc.
Hah, even after switching to openrc we’ve still got libsystemd0 on our system for some reason, so I bet intune would still work!
Gentoo looks pretty awesome, I’ve been thinking about trying it at some point.
– Frost
Don’t. It’s a drug!
Once it clicks how much cruft you don’t even compile in - and as such how much cruft cannot be exploited - there’s no going back.
The only arch machine I have left is the one for steam - couldn’t be bothered to add multilib to my binhost. But even that seems to be on the path of deprecation as I’ve read this morning about wine releasing wow64 support. I think the day of 100% Gentoo infra in my household is actually getting close!