yeah I hear you, for my part quranists are an interesting one as so much of the actual practices require some observance of the hadiths, such as explaining how to pray and perform Hajj. although from a logical point of view I do sympathise with the want to stay as close to the teaching of the prophet as they can. as to the historical side of what happened 1400 years ago, well it’s all a wash to me, we’ll never know.
To me the the hadiths are against what is said in the Quran about it being complete and sufficient. If it’s not, then those surahs are wrong, which takes some credibility off of it.
In comparison the New Testament is supposedly about Jesus, but a huge part of it is actually texts written by Paul who never even met Jesus (at least in flesh)
I agree with everything you’ve said, either the teachings of the prophet are the word of god or they aren’t, I have never quite understood the acceptance of revelations by non prophets or teachings that were created long after the prophets death, doesn’t matter which prophet we’re talking about.
but again I’m just speaking of my own thoughts on the matter. people can, obviously, believe what they like.
yeah I hear you, for my part quranists are an interesting one as so much of the actual practices require some observance of the hadiths, such as explaining how to pray and perform Hajj. although from a logical point of view I do sympathise with the want to stay as close to the teaching of the prophet as they can. as to the historical side of what happened 1400 years ago, well it’s all a wash to me, we’ll never know.
To me the the hadiths are against what is said in the Quran about it being complete and sufficient. If it’s not, then those surahs are wrong, which takes some credibility off of it.
https://beyond-islam.org/spiritual-ethical-foundations/the-quran-is-complete/
In comparison the New Testament is supposedly about Jesus, but a huge part of it is actually texts written by Paul who never even met Jesus (at least in flesh)
https://biblehub.com/topical/t/the_case_against_paul.htm
In the end It’s Pauls teachings that divide christians, and it’s the hadiths that divide muslims.
I agree with everything you’ve said, either the teachings of the prophet are the word of god or they aren’t, I have never quite understood the acceptance of revelations by non prophets or teachings that were created long after the prophets death, doesn’t matter which prophet we’re talking about.
but again I’m just speaking of my own thoughts on the matter. people can, obviously, believe what they like.
Agreed, thank you for the insightful conversation
you too friend, have a good one!