• Lumisal@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Before capitalism they used slaves and criminals, and before that they didn’t take have sewage systems. You just went in the woods. Which worked when the population of the village was like 100 people - not so much when dealing with the shit of hundreds of thousands.

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      3 hours ago

      While it’s true there is no precedent for this amount of population and this complex of “sewage” requirements before or outside of capitalism, that doesn’t mean capitalism is necessary to manage a complex sewage system for a large population. When people use examples like this as a rationalization to say “capitalism is necessary” it is lazy and tunnel visioned. A million other considerations aside, the fact that capitalism is destroying the planet and making and keeping most peoples’ lives miserable, pointing to logistical challenges like “who will do this tough job” is not an excuse to maintain the coercion of capitalism’s sort of “slavery,” wage slavery. We will find a way to manage the “shit” especially since the infrastructure already exists, look, so much of it has been built and can just be managed in a different way. If we ever needed capitalism (debatable of course) we don’t anymore.