Funny how your communities have no problem accommodating western libs without any anti-imperialist ideas or rethoric. You choosing to associate with them instead of with actual socialists and banning us immediately even for upvoting a comment shows very well whose side you stand on.
You try to force the human condition into something you think you can quantify and control and call that science?
No, I approach history, sociology and economy as sciences instead of as vibes-based. I support the system that historically statistically fed the children, not the one that claims in theory it can feed the children without having prisons.
Sure sure buddy. How many children ended up orphans thanks to the gulags? Bet they received a quality upbringing. Oh and the gays in the gulags wanted to be there right?
That’s authoritarianism, not getting banned from a meme comm.
Wont somebody please think of the poor princes??? How many kids had to grow up without their nazi collaborator dad there to guide them on the path of fascism anticommunism?
To be fair, there was excess repression during the late 1930s in the USSR, but people massively inflate the numbers and won’t ever tell that only about 1/4 of prisoners in the prison system (whose acronym was GULAG) were actually politically motivated. People also don’t understand that the harsh conditions in Soviet prisons were due to a Soviet-wide famine caused by the Nazi aggression:
The etymology of GULAG is: “the acronym of Гла́вное управле́ние исправи́тельно-трудовы́х лагере́й (Glávnoje upravlénije ispravítelʹno-trudovýx lageréj, “Chief Administration of Corrective-Labor Camps”)” emphasis mine, as it corresponds directly to the above, specifically the camps under the O.G.P.U. These are where those with harsher sentences were sent, as seen in the chart (3-10 years)
I know, I know you from hexbear (this is my alt), I just try to engage with the highest level of intellectual honesty possible when I’m in lib instances because people have the idea that there’s no honest analysis of the repressions within ML circles when it’s exactly the opposite way.
fair enough do you have that graph comparing gulag mortalities in the 50s to amount of DOJ prisoner deaths by any chance? It might be an even better illustration.
And here we go with the cold-war propaganda :D called you from the first second.
Anarchism in Spain led to many, many more gays in concentration camps and murdered than in prisons in the former USSR because anarchism cannot historically defeat fascism! That’s the authoritarianism you should be focusing on, especially in 2026 as we see the rise of fascism once again
Ignoring the part where they’re 100% right about spanish anarchists throwing people in camps because it’s inconvenient for your bullshit lol, try again
If anarchism is to blame for a different system that came after it than Marxist-Leninism is to blame for the capitalist shithole that is Russia today
Literally yes, we Marxist leninists study history in order to prevent the same mistakes. That’s why we have entire books devoted to the topic such as “Socialism Betrayed” analyzing the history and mistakes of the socialists in the USSR that led to its dissolution. Imagine engaging in honest criticism of your own ideology.
Still, Marxist Leninism brought 70 years of development and human rights to a former absolutist monarchy and saved its inhabitants from extermination at the hands of Nazism, and it still survives in many countries like Cuba, Vietnam, Laos or freaking China.
Yeah, anarchism is about free association and likewise disassociation.
Authoritarianism isn’t “you can’t come into my house and do what you want” that’s a child’s understanding of the concept.
Bahahaha oh that’s cute. You try to force the human condition into something you think you can quantify and control and call that science?
And what? Tankies are 100% stuck on cold-war propaganda, anarchists don’t care for it and hate both sides. Meanwhile those losers yearn for Stalin.
Funny how your communities have no problem accommodating western libs without any anti-imperialist ideas or rethoric. You choosing to associate with them instead of with actual socialists and banning us immediately even for upvoting a comment shows very well whose side you stand on.
No, I approach history, sociology and economy as sciences instead of as vibes-based. I support the system that historically statistically fed the children, not the one that claims in theory it can feed the children without having prisons.
Sure sure buddy. How many children ended up orphans thanks to the gulags? Bet they received a quality upbringing. Oh and the gays in the gulags wanted to be there right?
That’s authoritarianism, not getting banned from a meme comm.
Wont somebody please think of the poor princes??? How many kids had to grow up without their nazi collaborator dad there to guide them on the path of
fascismanticommunism?Everyone thrown in gulags was a prince!!!1one
All those queers? Princes. All those different socialists? Also princes. Hundreds of kingdoms, with millions of dollars each.
To be fair, there was excess repression during the late 1930s in the USSR, but people massively inflate the numbers and won’t ever tell that only about 1/4 of prisoners in the prison system (whose acronym was GULAG) were actually politically motivated. People also don’t understand that the harsh conditions in Soviet prisons were due to a Soviet-wide famine caused by the Nazi aggression:
Afaik not true. The average westerner may think so, but GULAG is an acronym for a specific part of the system.
copypasted my earlier comment
if you would consult the chart from chapter 10:
The etymology of GULAG is: “the acronym of Гла́вное управле́ние исправи́тельно-трудовы́х лагере́й (Glávnoje upravlénije ispravítelʹno-trudovýx lageréj, “Chief Administration of Corrective-Labor Camps”)” emphasis mine, as it corresponds directly to the above, specifically the camps under the O.G.P.U. These are where those with harsher sentences were sent, as seen in the chart (3-10 years)
Nice chart, thanks for the correction
right but this person isnt really the nuanced type, they’re cherrypicking and so am I
I know, I know you from hexbear (this is my alt), I just try to engage with the highest level of intellectual honesty possible when I’m in lib instances because people have the idea that there’s no honest analysis of the repressions within ML circles when it’s exactly the opposite way.
fair enough do you have that graph comparing gulag mortalities in the 50s to amount of DOJ prisoner deaths by any chance? It might be an even better illustration.
No idea to be honest, never seen that one
And here we go with the cold-war propaganda :D called you from the first second.
Anarchism in Spain led to many, many more gays in concentration camps and murdered than in prisons in the former USSR because anarchism cannot historically defeat fascism! That’s the authoritarianism you should be focusing on, especially in 2026 as we see the rise of fascism once again
It’s called history, I thought you studied it? :D or do you neglect the parts of history that showcase how bad authoritarianism is.
If anarchism is to blame for a different system that came after it than Marxist-Leninism is to blame for the capitalist shithole that is Russia today.
Go choke on a boot, I got better things to do than argue with you.
Ignoring the part where they’re 100% right about spanish anarchists throwing people in camps because it’s inconvenient for your bullshit lol, try again
They also cape for Nazis by ignoring pograms and lynchings to suit their narrative.
Unsurprising
Literally yes, we Marxist leninists study history in order to prevent the same mistakes. That’s why we have entire books devoted to the topic such as “Socialism Betrayed” analyzing the history and mistakes of the socialists in the USSR that led to its dissolution. Imagine engaging in honest criticism of your own ideology.
Still, Marxist Leninism brought 70 years of development and human rights to a former absolutist monarchy and saved its inhabitants from extermination at the hands of Nazism, and it still survives in many countries like Cuba, Vietnam, Laos or freaking China.
Lol, lmao even
China is socialist, not yet communist, but it did and it does follow the principles of Marxism-Leninism.
The people’s stock market. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Stock_Exchange
The people’s billionaires. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_by_net_worth
Marx famously advocated for billionaires to hoard wealth and to have stock exchanges, he said that’s the true path to communism.