I can’t. I just can’t.
Open source hardware needs to be built up more. To do that we need more new people active in that to get different things done. Including vehicles
Be the change you want to see.
Also, loop me in. I have almost no free time at the moment but I’m building up a list of FOSS projects to work on when I retire.
The used car market looks mighty good right about now.
Drivers in tatters.
I’ll just walk outside where there’s no surveillance.
Imagine this is what encourages people to ramp up public transit construction nationwide. Along with the Strait of Hormuz blockade.
Looking forward to all the good that will come from people refusing this stuff
LMAO
Is this just in America? Or worldwide?
as someone who has dealt with over 20 years of pulling victims, alive and dead, from crashes caused by drunks (am firefighter not terrible driver…) I can say this won’t help shit. Just give more data (profit) to corporations and be used in rights violating ways.
Nothing is perfect, but the GSR2 for example has undoubtedly saved many lives. The problem isn’t with the technology, but that you don’t have any real privacy laws in the US.
Like the EU is any better. Last I checked, France is passing the same kind of bullshit over and over, too.
Why do you think this will not help?
because drunks find a way to make trouble. they’ll get around the tech glitches in the imperfect deployments. they’ll be alert enough to trick it. etc. they’ll drink while driving and the system won’t see that and the impairment won’t be recognized till its too late. (i’m focused on system concerns because I am also a software engineer and know the realities of large scale tech like this.)
to counter the tech I think the punishments for impaired driving (including cell phone use) should be harsh and without kindness, if you cause another person harm. Federally. With no return of your privileges once convicted.
While I am very much anti-government, if I am not going to be allowed to “follow up” with someone who drank and ran over a family member, etc… then we might as well push the lawmakers to do their jobs with the laws we already have. Not make new ones that are clearly there to profit tech and not save lives.
So I’ll have reduced millage/charge and extra weight for carrying around this surveillance technology for the government and whose sole benefit will be the government?
Will I be compensated for this burden? No?
Would I be penalized for removing it from my car on my own?
What happens if it “breaks”? Will I be expected to fork over my own money to repair/replace the government’s device?
Only drive cars made before Onstar and similar systems were added in the early 90s. They have been tracking you for a long time. But even then you need a license plate, which is constantly collected in most urban areas, stored and sold. It’s really impossible to travel anywhere even if you have no phone giving away your location. Flock and all the surveillance systems also tie into the license plate data. Cars began having cell connections and other ways to broadcast data after the onstar type systems were added. Now it’s a whole other world with the amount of data cars like Tesla can collect. /OldManRant
They will really do anything before investing in public transit
Automobile-centric infrastructure was such a colossal societal fuck-up.
Bad for personal health, physical safety, household finances, and the environment. Automobiles are not a symbol of freedom, they are a symbol of dependence.
While I agree about automobile centric structure, when rural living automobiles are absolutely the ticket to freedom. It’s a shame more populace areas get designed around maintaining dependence on cars.
I think the point is choice. Even those living in suburban and urban areas have a difficult time opting out of car-dependence.
If you choose to live rural, I would say that automobiles are part and parcel to that decision. It’s just the nature of low population density.
Except there is absolutely no reason it has to be like that in rural areas. Period. At all. Even a little. Look at China (or if you still believe the NED puts out legitimate stories, Denmark or Sweden or Norway) which has public transit to nearly all rural areas at least a couple times a week, and inter-village public transit in pretty much all villages that have more than a dozen people.
Busses are more efficient than independent vehicle ownership in all settings. All of them.
More efficient, sure, but their argument was about freedom, which is just a different dimension. In an extreme example, private jets provide more freedom than public transportation does, even though it’s obvious which one is worse for the environment, more expensive, more intrusive, etc.
Except that’s not freedom.
It is not freedom to have a, and this really isn’t an exaggeration, more than 10,000x personal cost for transportation. It’s freedom for the rich, but the rich aren’t a part of society and cannot be generalized into society.
It is not freedom to have to personally rely on the US to do the right thing.
It is not freedom to take on the massive legal and financial risk that is driving a death machine.
It is only freedom in the most infantile, ‘Anarkiddie’ sense of the word freedom. The ‘Hurr durr we’d all be more free if we had less laws’ kind of idiocracy most humans abandon by the age of 15 when they learn about the concept of government.
Yup, drunkards in a tram are annoying but they almost never kill people and cause tens of thousands in damage.
almost never
thank you for that almost. jackasses like me see words like always and never as challenges and this is not one i want to take
Another system to allow hackers into your automobile. The federal government could use the biometric data from car for passport photos. On the other hand, I despise drivers under the influence.
I am driving my 2018 car which doesn’t even have auto stop start until it dies.
Every technology is eventually used against you by the state
It’s so difficult to get excited about new tech anymore.
Big tech is the problem. Indie tech is still cool as shit.
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Why is the government over reaching it’s authority.
It isn’t. This is power fully vested in federal agencies by the legislature and endorsed by the courts.
As noted up about, it’s an end run around implementing any kind of public transit, by offloading the external costs of privatized vehicle operation into the consumer.
But you don’t have some kind of inalienable right to a public highway free of state surveillance. That’s never existed.
Kinda creepy but as someone who crashed and almost killed themselves when driving too tired… Uhm yeah maybe it helps?
Sounds like a you problem. You fucked up so everyone needs constant surveillance? Fuck that authoritarian nonsense and fuck you for supporting it.
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Not to be a dick but you need to be more responsible behind the wheel. Driver aids just help drivers get complacent and I don’t want rolling surveillance drones everywhere :c
If I can’t sleep well at night, explaining it to my boss and skipping work is not an option. I’ll gladly document my occasional sleeplessness and apply for disability, but I have my doubts on whether this will be effective. If you can find me a place to live that doesn’t require work or money, I am open to safer alternatives.
If you cant get to sleep regularly you need to asses your routine, excersizes, and diet and see a doctor if you cannot sleep with those in check <3 don’t put others lives at risk plz
Fuck your entitlement. What does your lack of sleep have to do with my privacy? Get a remote job or take the bus if your too tired to drive.
It has nothing to do with your privacy. The comment I’m responding to has to do with driving while tired. In my community, not driving while tired isn’t an option. I’d need to spend $70 per day to ride five miles with Uber. “Personalized pricing.”
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Nothing in the article describes an actual implementation of this technology.
Like, no make or model with it enabled. No examples of it being tested or deployed in any vehicles ahead of schedule. Just a line item from legislation noting the deadline and a mention that manufacturers are resisting it.
I guess that wouldn’t sell in today’s news climate.
