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    But the only reports we have of it being a hoax are from China. I don’t want to trust either government. I don’t see why we would blindly believe one jus because it’s the opposition.

    I’m sort of in the middle. Yes, human rights violations have been happening there but, also that Western governments exaggerated or embellish reports on it.

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      there are plenty of non-chinese sources that say this (eg UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, Amsterdam University Academics, etc.).

      the problem is that these viewpoints are not parroted by western media, so it’s up to you to look for it rather than been spoonfed propaganda saying that it is happening.

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        Dude I hate all countries especially my own. I’m immune to your racist CCP bullshit. I know your history and mine. Guess what? Yours is way worse.

        i would love to see the measure you’re using for this insane take. lol

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        That’s fair, but what about victims’ first hand accounts?

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          the freedom of information act shows a decades long storied history of people getting paid and pushed to make up shit about the places they’ve come from.

          also gusanos (as in cubano gusano) are a thing.

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            So? That doesn’t mean none of the stories are true.

            To me, your argument is similar to those who don’t believe rape victims because at least one woman has lied about it in the past.

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              So? That doesn’t mean none of the stories are true.

              Yes, but there’s a difference between the statement “there are likely some power abuses happening in China as they do literally everywhere because no system is absolutely perfect” and the statement “there is systematic mass abuse against a certain ethnic minority”.

              You haven’t answered to the biggest question: after 3 years of televised genocide in Palestine, how come we have not one single shred of video evidence of the “genocide” against the Uyghur?

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              i’m not saying every account is false. the problems is how these stories are treated as automatically credible without scrutiny, especially when there’s documented evidence of coordinated disinformation campaigns and done by the perpetrators no less.

              we don’t base policy on individual testimony alone – look for patterns, corroboration, and motive. when a government or a well-funded exile group has a demonstrated interest in shaping public opinion, skepticism isn’t the same as victim-blaming. it’s just basic due diligence.