What a pessimistic view. In 2008, the PSL’s presidential candidate recieved 0.01% of the popular vote. In 2024, their candidate received 0.11%. That’s a 1000%+ increase in their votership in less than 20 years, while operating in a country where communism is illegal and the forces of capital spend billions of dollars on pro-capitalist propaganda each year. If anything, they are thriving more than ever.
Or do you think revolution happens overnight and can just spontaneously happen without any mass class consciousness amongst the people?
In 2008, the PSL’s presidential candidate recieved 0.01% of the popular vote. In 2024, their candidate received 0.11%. That’s a 1000%+ increase in their votership in less than 20 years
Context is everything. And in this case, the context is the United States. If we were to translate it to that meme, the baby would have doubled in weight despite having thousands of ticks sucking their blood every second of their life. It would be a miracle the baby is still alive at all.
Oh, their primary focus is building a vanguard party, but they engage with electoralism because Americans think that politics only exist during elections. They have to meet the people where they are at. You know, material conditions and all that.
It’s not a pessimistic view. It’s a realistic view. You sound like a pro-government shill sneaking their way into an anarchy group to calm everyone down.
We need something new. We also need fewer people who respond “well then you do it, har har har”
They started in 2004. Let’s just declare it dead at this point.
What a pessimistic view. In 2008, the PSL’s presidential candidate recieved 0.01% of the popular vote. In 2024, their candidate received 0.11%. That’s a 1000%+ increase in their votership in less than 20 years, while operating in a country where communism is illegal and the forces of capital spend billions of dollars on pro-capitalist propaganda each year. If anything, they are thriving more than ever.
Or do you think revolution happens overnight and can just spontaneously happen without any mass class consciousness amongst the people?
Political equivalent of this tweet:
Context is everything. And in this case, the context is the United States. If we were to translate it to that meme, the baby would have doubled in weight despite having thousands of ticks sucking their blood every second of their life. It would be a miracle the baby is still alive at all.
Bro, when a 1000% increase still leaves you a fucking ROUNDING ERROR, that is not really the win you think it is.
Ok, but the context is fucking America. The fact that this growth occurred at all is miraculous.
Wait, wtf is this electoral shit? What are they actually doing to cause the revolution?
Oh, their primary focus is building a vanguard party, but they engage with electoralism because Americans think that politics only exist during elections. They have to meet the people where they are at. You know, material conditions and all that.
It’s not a pessimistic view. It’s a realistic view. You sound like a pro-government shill sneaking their way into an anarchy group to calm everyone down.
We need something new. We also need fewer people who respond “well then you do it, har har har”
So an organization that is growing exponentially is dead. Right.
Honestly you are the one who sounds like a government shill, telling people to give up on existing organizations that are having great success.
Or maybe you are just expecting too much too soon. Which is not realism, but idealism.
I just know Americans aren’t going to do anything to help themselves. Go kill a billionaire. aFtEr yOu!
Enjoy the next century of right wing rulers in Merica. ✌️
Ok, so now you’re advocating for lone wolf terrorism? Get serious dude.
The RSDLP was founded in 1898, the Russian revolution happened 20 years after. The timescales aren’t dissimilar