I used several of their many descriptors, you zeroed in on that one. All of the labels I listed apply to this individual. Being trans in particular is a huge part of their personality and expression online. So its relevant and appropriate to include. If you choose to interpret that in the way you seem to be, you’re wrong and really trying hard to find a way to be offended. If you want to champion/defend trans people thats noble and I believe you should. However this person isn’t the particular hill you want to die on trying to defend.
You can choose the impact of the statement, I know it’s intent. As would any reasonable person who is familiar with this individual. You’re defending a person who uses those labels as a defense for predatory behavior. They RAPED their own mother and successfully used autism as a defense in court to get the charges dropped. They also have a very shaky history as to why they identify as trans (believing lesbians would be more accepting and they’d have an easier time finding a girlfriend, as well as an easier way to deflect hate). I do believe they are probably genuinly trans but it murky and absolutely 100% part of the story as is autism.
The labels factually have been and are likely currently being used by the individual to commit predatory behavior in this specific case. Which is all I’m talking about. They used the fact that they are trans as a shield when they engaged in posting non consensual sexual drawings of irl people they knew. As well as floating the idea of becoming trans in order to sleep with women and avoid criticism. They used being autistic as a successful legal tactic to skirt a sex crime in the rape of their mother. You’re saying these should be omitted when talking about them though? Because bringing it up would be bigotry?
Please explain why or how this identifying of transphobia is not directly an attempt to defend Chris, IN THIS CONTEXT, to someone who is autistic, or who may even suffer from some obstinent defiant disorder. FYI:
Some people aren’t hardwired for policing others’ verbiage or for having their own language “policed”, and I think that you are using your best methods you know, but tone of a written message often comes across in whatever way is most convenient to a given reader, which is what I think might be contributing some to the source of the problem (in this miscommunication). Could you format your statement that went along the lines of “don’t mirror transphobic language if you don’t want to appear transphobic” in a way that uses the words “should” and “if” in the same sentence? I find often that such a structure can address matters of internal perspective without presenting an imposing presence to the conversation or dialogue.
ok fair enough. i’ve come around to seeing that they way Chippy had initially phrased the gripe had come across as not only transphobic but dementophobic, autism-phobic (didn’t learn this word yet), “predator”-phobic (I think this is a widespread phenomenon for valid seeming reasons), and lolcow(I don’t think I will even look this one up tbh)-phobic as well (by the nature of the implications of choosing to include such descriptors in the first place). I’m just sorry that I had come across as so combative while working to improve my language interpretation skills and conflict avoidance strategies for future discussions with people who have perspectives which seem to not be reconciling with each other on their own.
Seriously thank you anyways for taking the time to keep replying even though you feel that for some reason because I have trouble understanding gender identity that would mean that I also assuredly want to “drill baby drill” (for oil) or enforce the killing of babies or disenfranchisement of mothers at risk of losing their children for medical (or other) complications through the use of the violent rules of backwards laws [or support the use of AI for writing, researching, or creating related tasks, for that matter]. I think it might be a bit worthwhile for each of us to continue opening our minds up to new levels of deficiency or ignorance and to continue working with the tools we are capable of
accessing and taking ownership of, to help those around us who seem to be explicitly intending or promoting harmful or otherwise shortsighted actions or beliefs which could hold back the development and rebalancing of the systems of nature we depend on throughout our world as well as the internal drives and doubts which shape our subconscious perspectives or intuitions.
I used several of their many descriptors, you zeroed in on that one. All of the labels I listed apply to this individual. Being trans in particular is a huge part of their personality and expression online. So its relevant and appropriate to include. If you choose to interpret that in the way you seem to be, you’re wrong and really trying hard to find a way to be offended. If you want to champion/defend trans people thats noble and I believe you should. However this person isn’t the particular hill you want to die on trying to defend.
You chose to list “trans” and “autistic” in the middle of a list of abhorrent behaviors/traits about Chris. Get real.
Leaving things borderline unambiguous like this is how transphobes speak. If you’re not, I don’t recommend mirroring them. 🤷🏼♀️
You can choose the impact of the statement, I know it’s intent. As would any reasonable person who is familiar with this individual. You’re defending a person who uses those labels as a defense for predatory behavior. They RAPED their own mother and successfully used autism as a defense in court to get the charges dropped. They also have a very shaky history as to why they identify as trans (believing lesbians would be more accepting and they’d have an easier time finding a girlfriend, as well as an easier way to deflect hate). I do believe they are probably genuinly trans but it murky and absolutely 100% part of the story as is autism.
I’m not defending Chris. I’m pointing at transphobic commentary. Get over yourself.
You’re ignoring context and nuance as a way to be offended. You’re the one that needs to get over yourself lmfao.
The context being? A. The person is behaving in an abhorrent way B. The person is identifying as trans C. A & B
Which is it?
Funny when a person acts badly, some people always have to bring up additional labels.
They’re bad, and gay. They’re bad, and a Jew. They’re bad, and a muslim. Etc.
You are just showing your own bigotry. Lmfao.
The labels factually have been and are likely currently being used by the individual to commit predatory behavior in this specific case. Which is all I’m talking about. They used the fact that they are trans as a shield when they engaged in posting non consensual sexual drawings of irl people they knew. As well as floating the idea of becoming trans in order to sleep with women and avoid criticism. They used being autistic as a successful legal tactic to skirt a sex crime in the rape of their mother. You’re saying these should be omitted when talking about them though? Because bringing it up would be bigotry?
I identify as not a bigot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performative_activism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repression_(psychoanalysis) [what is the point in sharing wikipedia links again? I forgot]
And I wouldn’t recommend defending Chris chan who is a horrid person who uses their labels to attack others and to hide from repercussions.
It makes you look like a biggot.
Nobody is defending Chris from what I’ve seen.
They’re merely pointing out that including “trans” in the list of negative traits about Chris makes OP appear transphobic.
Hmmm, you’re presenting as autophobic, this is problematic.
You just couldn’t type that trait out, could you? Too afraid of autism. Sad.
You also excluded “mentally ill” from your list… as if it was not worth a mention. Dementophobia
If you think identifying transphobia is to defend Chris, you’re the problem.
Please explain why or how this identifying of transphobia is not directly an attempt to defend Chris, IN THIS CONTEXT, to someone who is autistic, or who may even suffer from some obstinent defiant disorder. FYI: Some people aren’t hardwired for policing others’ verbiage or for having their own language “policed”, and I think that you are using your best methods you know, but tone of a written message often comes across in whatever way is most convenient to a given reader, which is what I think might be contributing some to the source of the problem (in this miscommunication). Could you format your statement that went along the lines of “don’t mirror transphobic language if you don’t want to appear transphobic” in a way that uses the words “should” and “if” in the same sentence? I find often that such a structure can address matters of internal perspective without presenting an imposing presence to the conversation or dialogue.
I didn’t even say their name, dude
bro
ok fair enough. i’ve come around to seeing that they way Chippy had initially phrased the gripe had come across as not only transphobic but dementophobic, autism-phobic (didn’t learn this word yet), “predator”-phobic (I think this is a widespread phenomenon for valid seeming reasons), and lolcow(I don’t think I will even look this one up tbh)-phobic as well (by the nature of the implications of choosing to include such descriptors in the first place). I’m just sorry that I had come across as so combative while working to improve my language interpretation skills and conflict avoidance strategies for future discussions with people who have perspectives which seem to not be reconciling with each other on their own.
Seriously thank you anyways for taking the time to keep replying even though you feel that for some reason because I have trouble understanding gender identity that would mean that I also assuredly want to “drill baby drill” (for oil) or enforce the killing of babies or disenfranchisement of mothers at risk of losing their children for medical (or other) complications through the use of the violent rules of backwards laws [or support the use of AI for writing, researching, or creating related tasks, for that matter]. I think it might be a bit worthwhile for each of us to continue opening our minds up to new levels of deficiency or ignorance and to continue working with the tools we are capable of accessing and taking ownership of, to help those around us who seem to be explicitly intending or promoting harmful or otherwise shortsighted actions or beliefs which could hold back the development and rebalancing of the systems of nature we depend on throughout our world as well as the internal drives and doubts which shape our subconscious perspectives or intuitions.