• dreamy@quokk.auOP
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    9 hours ago

    This is some JP-level philbro bullshit I had never thought I would see on Lemmy. 5 people fell for it though so congrats. Also very nice of you to share some of your more simplistic ideas right here.
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    “It’s just a joke bro” type of shit. Do the attack helicopter one too, quick, while everyone is laughing 🤡

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      5 hours ago

      I just realized that there might be a deeper meaning to the attack helicopter/ velociraptor jokes which I had not been picking up on before in that those are aggressive combatant type things which attack often in groups. Damn… ok considering that, I can see where the undertone came from on those examples and I honestly never even thought about how they might be seen or interpreted by a traumatized or otherwise sensitive or proactively inclusive listener as trying to undercut/discount the impact/validity of someone else’s internal experience, on the basis that such a person is presenting as combative, aggressive, or even hunting/conquering in some way. I had only ever read those as people choosing arbitrary, perhaps humorously obscure, examples of creatures or I guess machines that are not typically associated with how one experiences their sense of self, and that such a concept was seeming difficult to get used to in the mind of the person making those types of “jokes” (expressions) which is why they chose examples that would be even harder to get used to (for a wider group of people) to illicit some type of sympathetic response in the (presumably) typical person hearing the rhetoric

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      3 hours ago

      you’re not wrong lol. are you for or against the “/s” construct anyways (?) because in my opinion, it feels like a shitty thing to even dare to do, considering how covert narcissism is basically founded on that type of humor of gaslighting some of the people they are interacting with into thinking that they have thought about some type of feeling (deep, personal, vulnerable, challenging, or dissenting) on a deeper level and are just using “ironic” statements to try and remain relevant to the issue/topic without doing the internal work of even processing the questions posed by the original statements which might seem puzzling to readers/listeners upon first impressions, but if one could take enough careful time to think them through or piece them together, might be able to come up with actually much more meaningful takeaways from even simpler statements, pieces of art, or expressions more generally.

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      5 hours ago

      I don’t disagree with you, I think basically all humor is in bad taste, but comes from a true intention to express some kind of emotion, as limited in its complexity or rarity as may it be. I generally try to epitomize misconceptions in ways that allow for genuine constructive pushback, to test what I am doing wrong because I often times find that what sometimes I expect to be common decency or typical behavior has been proven to be inaccurate to what my predictions might have been. At various points seeing other people treating others in their life in minimizing ways that I had been able to observe in some limited way, but also sometimes beginning to notice ways that people have perhaps at times been doing some of those manipulative strategies with me, either intentionally or unintentionally. And also sometimes through reflection upon times when it had taken me sometimes weeks to months after an interaction to put together the context or way to interpreting my actions or an expression of thoughts/feelings of general unease or uncertainty about life, the world, or perhaps some underlying unease with the social interaction with another (often seemingly due to lack of perfect socialization on my part) I will realize that many of those times I will have at some point in the exchange acted or spoken out of ignorance in that person’s perspective, and they just did not have the patience to teach me in that moment. so I am interested in improving my ability to be understood on an increasingly precise or “nuanced” level as I learn to both hear and validate the perspectives of others while still being able to use their own language with them to be able to mitigate conflicts of interest while not coming across as intentionally provoking disgust in others through disrespecting of cultural taboos in the various forms they can come in.

      Maybe I should still look up who JP is though.

      Also I hadn’t heard the term “philbro” or “dementophobia” before today, so I can’t say I regret trying to engage with these discussions, despite me probably inflicting a lot of psychic damage on perhaps you or other individuals who have the misfortune of trying to make any sense of what I am putting down.