In the US, you also have no expectation of privacy when out in public.
Doesn’t mean the people wearing nazi glasses are any less deserving of being punched in the face
I want Smarter Glasses. I’m thinking something like the smart glasses, but it only uses it’s camera to locate and highlight other camera lenses. It then activates an infrared laser that the wearer can focus on the other lens to discreetly blind it.
When you see someone with those take out your phone and take a closeup picture of them. See how they like it…
I am distraught to learn that apparently smart glasses are not banned in the EU. Until now I assumed without checking that they obviously would be.
Interestingly in most of the EU, there’s is no expectation of privacy in public and you are free to record people without their concent.
Releasing or using those recordings is a completely different thing though.
You’re free to record a crowd of people in public. Once you’re pointing the camera at a person specifically, that’s a whole different issue.
Glasshole the term needs to make a significant comeback. Normalize shunning, put up signs on bathrooms and anywhere else you can with
“‘Smart’ glasses forbidden. Fines applicable. Bluetooth detection active.” and perhaps "This means you Glasshole ! "
whether such detection is active is moot, make the bastards as nervous as they should be. A (dummy) camera on the outside of the door should complete the illusion. Make them feel like perverts.
Non consensual filming should be unacceptable, but that’s a whole other fight.
Bluetooth detection active
Yea, I’d love to get a fine for listening to music while I shit.
You can search specifically for smart glasses, e.g. the aptly named Nearby Glasses
Also, you likely can’t fine them, but you can make them think about it.
Can I call the police on them for taking an active filming device into a public restroom?
Even if it’s not illegal, surely some shit can he stirred. I think twice after having to wait for an officer to show up, being embarrassed, regardless of how the events turn out,
Sounds good. Bonus points for getting it in the media.
Bluetooth devices have MAC addresses which can help tell Meta glasses apart from other BT devices.
Apparently in this case it’s a bit more complicated and you have to rely on https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/assigned-numbers/ to identify glassholes.
Dystopian stuff. The public should be protected from this stuff.
I want to like smart glasses. And wearable tech in general. Too bad it’s all entirely centralized, monetized, and exploited for political gain.
When I learnt about the concept I was immediately in. Even just the option to remind me of people’s names would be life-changing, not to mention all the other information and reminders and whatnot not only at my fingertips but right into my eyeballs.
And then Google’s glasses came out and were a data privacy nightmare and that day I think I lost another bit of my childhood innocence.
Too bad it’s all entirely centralized, monetized, and exploited
for political gain.as a fascist surveillance method.I love wearables as well and I’m deeply bothered by apple having the best smart watch in terms of sensor quality. Almost all wearables are locked behind one app or an other, the whole scene kind of blows.
I have a Garmin watch and I can’t see any benefit for my usage from an Apple watch. Quick reminder that Garmin watches have 10/15 days battery life and decent privacy 😀.
Sensor quality for heartrate is really good on the apple watch. There are a few studies about it. Garmin is really solid from what I can see though and ya, amazing battery life.
All I can say is that the heart sensor is good enough for my usage (running, cycling, sleep monitoring).
Do you have a heart issue? Because if not, its like having a thermometer, still know when you have a temperature, but real time tracking. Asking because my girlfriend does have a heart issue, and there is really no other reason for it to be “the best.”
Apple watch hits 98% agreement with the polar h10 while Garmin is only about 80%. It’s kind of a big difference. Sure most don’t really need it but that 18% means it can practically be used for medical studies, the Garmin not so much.
I hate apple but I was really impressed with the watch.
10 / 15 days! No way. I have owned multiple garmin watches over the years and none of them have ever lasted 10 days, even when brand new. Even if you don’t actually use them for recording activities I can’t see them ever lasting that long.
My current watch is admittedly 4 years old at this point so I expect some degradation but I average 3 recorded activities a day and the battery will last 3 days at the absolute best and that is running it down to like 2%
I like garmin hardware but struggle to believe anyone is getting 10 days or more from a single charge!
routinely get nearly two weeks out of my Venu 3
Are you not recording any activities / using any GPS?
Obviously everyone has different use cases and experiences so I don’t want to disregard other experiences it just seems so far out of reach for me compared to the experiences I have had across 5 or 6 different models of their watches over the years.
I have mostly used different iterations of the forerunner range and a Vivosmart which was fucking trash IMO.
I use it as a step counter and a sleep tracker every night (with plugin), don’t use any of the built-in activities though
That makes more sense I guess as I know the GPS is a major battery drain. Maybe that model is also better with battery in general as I know for sure none I have ever owned would last that long just using it as you do. :)
A solar Instinct can go for weeks. With gps tracking 3-5 hours a week.
Just had a look at this, interesting, although it is bolstering its battery life with solar power.
Do you have real world experience with it? Does it last as long as it claims? I have to charge mine every 2 - 3 days as it is right now.
Mine is a newer 2X Solar. The solar definitely helps (although obviously only when the sun is out, winter training might not be similar). I have just over 40% remaining after a few weeks and like 3.5 hours of gps tracking time. Im definitely sold on the solar part. My only Apple Watch comparisons are the first few generations but HR seems similar to those (good enough to be useful but probably not as good as a real chest strap).
Part of it might be the simple screen which I like - feels like gshock.
Appreciate the replies and definitely going to look into this watch a little bit more. I like the aesthetic of it and the fact it still has buttons as that is an absolute must for me.
It seems like I record more activities than the average person so probably can’t get as much life out of it but even one extra day is a 50% improvement over what I get right now!
Mine is a Venu 2, 3 years old, and it lasts 11 to 12 days. I record activities 3 times a week only though.
Judging by all the replies it seems like the Venu watches have exceptionally good battery life in comparison to all the forerunner models I have had!
I use Gadgetbridge for my CMF Watch 3 Pro and I have only noticed minor issues.
Same. I gave up on the tech future a long time ago.
Wearables could thrive in an open environment. But meta is currently the only big player and I don’t think they have the will and corporate capability to open themselves up. They will play in their walled garden and that will cut down on creativity and innovation.
We are all vexed little rubberneckers. It’s a human trait.
I remember back in the early 2000s, when MiniDV cameras got popular.
They were all obviously a camera just based on the look, they had an obvious lens cap, and even a clear record light so that people could see that they were being recorded.
It is insane that we have done away with all of that, and are actively camouflaging cameras in every day items.
Smart glasses should be banned.
What we need is regulation. These companies will not show ethical behaviour on their own.
See e.g. right to repair, USB-C.
Regulation with fines exceeding the profits made on the product.
No more static fines, or fines that are anything less than 100% of the profits made on breaching the regulations.
I believe the way EU enforces those regulations is through a supply chain sales ban. Banned products are just not sold here.
Fines are for software products and behaviours which.
I’m sure the people who have them love harvesting data for AI training since that’s what they are clearly for.
It seems like soon enough people will start recognizing the things, they’re pretty distinctive with the two little circles and heavy frames. I know I would spot them if they were right in front of me.
So, how to NOT look like a perv, if you need to wear glasses, like I do? Wear thin frames, which is what I do now.
Time to download Nearby Glasses
Glasses with high correction don’t look that great with thin frames IMO. Even when you get thinner lenses, there still quite thick on the edges.
Thin frames also have kind of an uncanny effect when the lenses warp the size of your eyes a lot. Better have a bulky, obvious thing instead.
Yeah, I am more and more happy that I found my style in Lindberg frames, they are expensive, but damn they look and feel amazing.
Accessibility aides are always exempt, obviously. That’s not what companies make them for though.
The naunceless, rabid violence and hatred directed at users of these will get disabled people hurt all the same.
True, that’s a societal issue though.
I have the Oakley one, mostly of two reasons:
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the audio quality for music and podcasts during runs and bike rides is good, not as good as the Bose frames, but way better than everything else, if you want your ears free
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the video rivals an action cam. Great for pictures or short videos, for something like filming the kids on a ski run. Way safer than taking out a smartphone ( I do not like parents filming with a phone on the slopes, super dangerous)
Now, if have it set up on an older phone and cut down everything. The meta ai app is horrible, their sloptok is even worse.
Additionaly, you are only allowed to use what meta likes, so, for example, only Spotify, no Deezer, no tidal. Only Garmin, no polar, no suunto.
I do not use the ai features, and I can see why people are weirded out by the cameras.
But for the niche stuff, they are a cool alternative to a gopro
I think the issue isn’t so much you filming runs and rides as GoPros have done that forever, but you know some people will be walking around constantly with these in public, bathrooms, classrooms, and live streaming it to the world while doing antisocial bullshit for content.
I’m just waiting for the first Glasshole who goes to a children’s playground wearing these and gets investigated by police. Imagine someone judging everything you glance at.
No one would tolerate some guy at a park with a gopro.
Go to youtube and search first amendment auditors. This is already a thing and has been for years/decades.
I’m not only weirded out by the AI features. I also just don’t want to appear in some random persons video. It does not matter if the camera is in a smartphone or a wearable. It is insane to me how many people do not respect the privacy of others in this regard.
100 percent. It has a feature that takes a short clip when Garmin sends a milestone (3 km, new FTP), but I was horrified that it did not just take a picture but filmed it. I do not want to film strangers, such a creepy feature.
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So are smartphones, and every other tech. I am going to wait a while before getting AR glasses, so people calm down.
What’s the difference between these glasses and a dashcam? Both are around to protect yourself.
It’s hard to creep on women with a dashcam.
Take a look at all those dashcam subreddits and Youtubes and you will see that dashcams can also be problematic. There are so many videos showing random persons doing something on the street or people having medical issues. And there are also those creepy stalker sexual harassment accounts who are filming women in public with their cams
Wait, they arent (don’t have to be) designed with minimal storage for only a few seconds, only accessible after a crash?
Lol no, why would they? They’re just compact video cameras. No one is gonna spend extra money for a camera that only works in an accident.
Which is their sole reason for existence. Also, that wouldn’t fly here.
I was in an accident once. Another driver did a blind right turn into the center lane in front of me, past a stopped bus in the curb lane. There was no issue assigning fault because the bus driver had a dash cam with the ability to record on demand. If things worked like you would like, that wouldn’t be the case.
There are perfectly valid reasons to record dash cam footage other than an accident you are personally a part of. And any issues you have with dash cams could be almost as easily, if not more easily, done with another camera-based device.
Protect yourself from what and at what price?
Oh, the price (privacy violation) will be paid by others - how convenient!
If anything Meta glasses endanger those who wear them…Yeah, it’s creepy and weird, but we already have cameras watching and recording your every move. I don’t see how this really changes anything.
We probably can’t stop it from happening, but we can make it very socially unacceptable, and we can make some behaviors illegal.
Never accept blanket mass surveillance simply because “we already have cameras doing this”.
I’m just saying it’s a huge genie, already out of the bottle. Good luck getting control of it now.
