• pedz@lemmy.ca
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    21 hours ago

    Ah schools. Life’s first taste of arbitrary rules. Some schools here are confiscating stealing kids’ phones for a week.

    I’m glad I don’t have children to send to those part time prisons.

    • Pennomi@lemmy.world
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      20 hours ago

      I know you’re being downvoted, but it’s increasingly true, at least in the US. My kids are in public school in Texas and let me tell you that it is not at ALL like you adults remember it.

      US education is quickly devolving into what you’re describing. Almost every single day my kids talk about the collective punishments they receive because of other kids’ misbehavior. Their favorite teachers have all been fired to save budget, and some classes have had more than one teacher quit mid-year. The rules have become far more arbitrary and less focused on learning than they ever have been in the past. More focus on forcing the kids to learn the same curriculum instead of adjusting for their talents leaves my kids extremely bored.

      Add to that the fact that the superintendent is publicly embezzling money from the district, sparking huge protests, but we can’t do shit about it because he was appointed by the governor. Multiple schools in our poorest areas closed this year to be replaced with charter schools.

      Anyway, all this to say that public school isn’t the wonderful thing for kids like it used to be. It should be fantastic for kids like it was when I was growing up but it really does look more like a prison than not these days.

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        19 hours ago

        It’s fascinating to see the reactions of people, but I’m just stating what I think.

        I’m neurodivergent and was bullied for most of the time I went to school. If I was not being bullied, I either found it too interesting, or very boring. Plus, being unpopular, I was always picked last in gym class, so at some point I started not going to those classes, and eventually dropped out of school entirely. I really felt like it was a prison where parents dump their kids while they are busy earning slave wages. And from what I hear from my nephew and friends working in schools, I’m just glad I don’t have a child that also has to deal with this.

        The whole concept of schools with classes of ~30ish kids with an overworked teacher trying to follow a standardized program that will not work for all kids, is… depressing.

        • GeriatricGambino@lemmy.world
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          18 hours ago

          Didn’t know your story, I assumed you were just acting immature and I found it amusing to answer back with a juvenile quip. If I made you feel attacked for not understanding social clues because of your neurodivergence or something like that, I am sorry.

      • Oxysis/Oxy@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        18 hours ago

        Oh yeah I’ve tried talking about stupid rules my school had online before only to be told I was wrong because they didn’t have to deal with it when they went to school.

        Like I was talking about how we weren’t allowed to wear winter coats in the class room because it was “distracting”. And then someone got really pissy at me for it.

        We also weren’t allowed to talk about negative experiences and feelings about teachers. Only allowed to be openly positive about them or else risk punishment. God forbid students warn each other about problematic teachers so they can actually have a chance.

        If you didn’t go to that school during the time they say it happened or have a kid who was there, then shut up. You know nothing about what it is like, you do not know enough to be able to actually contradict them.

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      19 hours ago

      Those things are getting really bad in the us. I’m glad I got out so many years ago, the shit I hear now being described by students like it’s normal is insane.

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      18 hours ago

      Having kids focus on the lesson and real life socializing is not a bad thing.

      Confiscating their phone for a week is not acceptable, unless they’ve had it confiscated till the end of the day a few times already.

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        11 hours ago

        IMO it’s not acceptable regardless. The school’s jurisdiction as it were ends at the door. Anything beyond that is theft.

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        20 hours ago

        Nah mate, pretty sure I’ll never be in a state where I want to have children. Just read his message and thought it was for the best he didn’t. Also I would never use the word breeders, it makes you sound obnoxious and not very intelligent like a 14 yo.