Racism and sexism and other forms of oppression need to be fought against literally because they are tools of the ruling class!
Anti-racism without class warfare is worthless, of course, but class warfare without anti-racism fails to combat one of the most powerful tools the ruling class has to pit the working class against itself.
How do you propose to convince white workers to unionize with nonwhite workers without anti-racism?
racism may have been a system created to facilitate capitalist (and, mostly, colonialist) exploitation, but it doesn’t just disappear like this when capitalism is overthrown.
just look at the USSR still doing cultural genocide in asia after the revolution. look at online leftist spaces being mostly white; why is that? look at the racism that permeates the fediverse, which doesn’t have the profit-driven algorithms.
the fight for Black & Indigenous liberation is intrinsically linked to the fight for worker liberation. one isn’t complete without the other.
The only war is class war, but to fight that war you need solidarity, and you build solidarity by acknowledging and accommodating the diverse identities that compose the working class. eg If you can’t demonstrate to victims of racism that you will consistently and directly oppose racism then you are in fact neglecting part of the class struggle and missing a chance to strengthen the organization of your social class.
The left wing has crippled itself by only focusing on social equality for decades on end, while letting the right wing abuse the working class and wrecking the economy in favor of the ruling class.
Yes i agree, everyone should be allowed to be here. Of course, be the beautiful person you want to be, no shame.
But we talk so fucking much about it. Its basically the only thing that has gotten attention from left wing activists for most of my life, while the minimum wage has stagnated and everyone started buying everything from Jeff bezos.
I dont even see social inclusion as a left wing ideology anymore. I just see it as reactions to propoganda.
You must lift others up as you climb or there will be no revolution. White feminists didn’t help women by securing the vote only for themselves. White only housing is not a victory for workers but it is a defeat. Rather than ask the subjugated to work to make there oppressors more powerful instead ask privileged to step down . The onus is on the bigot to be tolerant. Without solidarity the class war is already lost
You are said anti racism is wrong. I am telling you that unjust hierarchies must be abolished or the class war cannot be won. If somebody takes money from the current rich without dismantling other unjust heirchies you will not create an equal or just world. For instance very poor people in the past still upheld segregation. I have mentioned race relations and gender relations as they are damaging heirches that exist in the working class. If you want to explain why we should ignore those things and how that will win the class war for everyone have at it.
Im not at all saying ignore them, just dont give social equality like 99% of the focus, like the global and especially American left wing has done for half a century.
There has been so much focus on black and gay people, that nobody did anything about stagnating wages, worse working conditions and the systematic abuse of the healthcare system.
Obviously we should strive for a world where everyone is welcome. But we don’t get that by just talking about it for decades.
By focusing so much on social inclusion that you neglect economic abuse, you are all playing straight into the second step of the racism propoganda.
Step 1, make half the population be bigots. Step 2, make the other half hate the bigots.
The large leftist mobilisations that I recall are wto (against globalization), anti Iraq war (against imperialism and islamphobia), occupy wall street (against income inequality), pipeline acess protest (against global warming), BLM (prison and police abolishment) and Palestine (against colonization). These movements all are for the common good. BLM is tied to abolishing police and prisons. Anti racists have been attempting to abolish coerced and unpaid labor in prisons and ice centers. Raising the minimum wage would never reach those people. These other systems of abuse are entwined with class.
There is also a difference between identity politics and anti racism. Anti racism feminism queer activism or what have you are attempting to change the systems that cause the abuse. If anti racism is prison abolishment then identity politics is hiring a black warden. There is also the issue that bigotry if unopposed harms people. people cannot just ignore it. You will probably find if you center bigots you will lose many others. Opposing bigotry is not tearing society apart it is the bigots. I would urge you to read more about the theory behind these movments and imagine a world where a class war is won by bigots and the resulting outcome and the society that comes of it. Without education we will likely recreate our suffering again. I do not really debate and we have probably had as much useful dialogue as is possible.
Which is why racists and anti racists are all just taking the same bait.
The only war is class war.
Racism and sexism and other forms of oppression need to be fought against literally because they are tools of the ruling class!
Anti-racism without class warfare is worthless, of course, but class warfare without anti-racism fails to combat one of the most powerful tools the ruling class has to pit the working class against itself.
How do you propose to convince white workers to unionize with nonwhite workers without anti-racism?
no.
racism may have been a system created to facilitate capitalist (and, mostly, colonialist) exploitation, but it doesn’t just disappear like this when capitalism is overthrown.
just look at the USSR still doing cultural genocide in asia after the revolution. look at online leftist spaces being mostly white; why is that? look at the racism that permeates the fediverse, which doesn’t have the profit-driven algorithms.
the fight for Black & Indigenous liberation is intrinsically linked to the fight for worker liberation. one isn’t complete without the other.
The only war is class war, but to fight that war you need solidarity, and you build solidarity by acknowledging and accommodating the diverse identities that compose the working class. eg If you can’t demonstrate to victims of racism that you will consistently and directly oppose racism then you are in fact neglecting part of the class struggle and missing a chance to strengthen the organization of your social class.
The left wing has crippled itself by only focusing on social equality for decades on end, while letting the right wing abuse the working class and wrecking the economy in favor of the ruling class.
Yes i agree, everyone should be allowed to be here. Of course, be the beautiful person you want to be, no shame.
But we talk so fucking much about it. Its basically the only thing that has gotten attention from left wing activists for most of my life, while the minimum wage has stagnated and everyone started buying everything from Jeff bezos.
I dont even see social inclusion as a left wing ideology anymore. I just see it as reactions to propoganda.
What is the class war if not a struggle for social equality?
Economic equality.
If we take the money away from the propogandists, social equality will come automatically. Racism is the result of propoganda.
You must lift others up as you climb or there will be no revolution. White feminists didn’t help women by securing the vote only for themselves. White only housing is not a victory for workers but it is a defeat. Rather than ask the subjugated to work to make there oppressors more powerful instead ask privileged to step down . The onus is on the bigot to be tolerant. Without solidarity the class war is already lost
Im not talking about white only, wtf. Im talking about taking money away from the ruling class.
You are said anti racism is wrong. I am telling you that unjust hierarchies must be abolished or the class war cannot be won. If somebody takes money from the current rich without dismantling other unjust heirchies you will not create an equal or just world. For instance very poor people in the past still upheld segregation. I have mentioned race relations and gender relations as they are damaging heirches that exist in the working class. If you want to explain why we should ignore those things and how that will win the class war for everyone have at it.
Im not at all saying ignore them, just dont give social equality like 99% of the focus, like the global and especially American left wing has done for half a century.
There has been so much focus on black and gay people, that nobody did anything about stagnating wages, worse working conditions and the systematic abuse of the healthcare system.
Obviously we should strive for a world where everyone is welcome. But we don’t get that by just talking about it for decades.
By focusing so much on social inclusion that you neglect economic abuse, you are all playing straight into the second step of the racism propoganda.
Step 1, make half the population be bigots. Step 2, make the other half hate the bigots.
The large leftist mobilisations that I recall are wto (against globalization), anti Iraq war (against imperialism and islamphobia), occupy wall street (against income inequality), pipeline acess protest (against global warming), BLM (prison and police abolishment) and Palestine (against colonization). These movements all are for the common good. BLM is tied to abolishing police and prisons. Anti racists have been attempting to abolish coerced and unpaid labor in prisons and ice centers. Raising the minimum wage would never reach those people. These other systems of abuse are entwined with class.
There is also a difference between identity politics and anti racism. Anti racism feminism queer activism or what have you are attempting to change the systems that cause the abuse. If anti racism is prison abolishment then identity politics is hiring a black warden. There is also the issue that bigotry if unopposed harms people. people cannot just ignore it. You will probably find if you center bigots you will lose many others. Opposing bigotry is not tearing society apart it is the bigots. I would urge you to read more about the theory behind these movments and imagine a world where a class war is won by bigots and the resulting outcome and the society that comes of it. Without education we will likely recreate our suffering again. I do not really debate and we have probably had as much useful dialogue as is possible.