• KittyCat@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Unless the universe is truly infinite, then from the point of view of your continuity of consciousness, you will never die, because they will always be somewhere in infinity where you’re exact current consciousness picks right up after you die without a blip.

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      1 day ago

      I don’t think that’s how infinity works

      Edit: thinking about it some more, there’s nothing to say that’s how consciousness works either lol

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        1 day ago

        Something about “there’s an infinite amount of numbers between 0 and 1, but none of them is 2” idk

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        In an infinite universe every configuration of matter that can possibly exist will just due to the laws of statistics. Meaning in an infinite universe there’s are infinite identical copies of this solar system exactly as it is, isn’t, and everything in-between. Since you obviously can’t observe your life if you’re dead, in such a universe you will always experience your point of view from the position of a living copy somewhere else that was identical up until that point. Now of course its not the other you physically. But if the mind is exactly the same it is you mentally.

        Its more or less the star trek transporter problem taken to a logical extreme. If you step into a star trek transpoter and are reassembled with identical memories elsewhere, are you still you? If its yes, it must also be yes for the universal thought experiment.

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          15 hours ago

          In an infinite universe every configuration of matter that can possibly exist will just due to the laws of statistics

          Not necessarily. There is an infinite set of numbers containing the positive integers, but it still excludes the negative integers. Why should an infinite universe be any different?

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          Neurodegenarative disorders poke holes in the infinite consciousness idea. Each day the brain slowly wears away, the consciousness of self is never the same.

          Not to mention that the universe itself is pretty certain to end eventually. If there isn’t a big crunch, then every single atomic partlcle has a half life, one day there will be near 0 protons left.

          My take on consciousness is that you essentially ‘die’ each time you go into a deep sleep. When you wake, a new stream of consciousness starts in a brain ever so slightly different from the one that fell asleep the night before. Your new consciousness remembers everything you once did and is in a brain that handles stimuli and emotions almost exactly as the day before. But it isn’t the same, it cant be as cells have died or been replaced during the down time that was a deep sleep.

          Better to think there is an end after death, infinite consciousness would be terrible as you would eventually just be utterly sick of existence after a googleplex of years has passed by. I don’t understand the concept of heaven, as good as it would be at first, it would eventually become torture of non stop existence.

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          1 day ago

          I mean yeah, sure, maybe. You’re making some pretty lofty claims based on a philosophical thought experiment about a phenomenon we still don’t really understand though.