• undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch
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    Because I said “animal rape?” How dare I state blatantly where the beloved dairy products come from, the horror!

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      2 months ago

      Apparently it doesn’t bother you that you make veganism look bad since you chose to be sarcastic like that. You’re actively preventing veganism

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        2 months ago

        Are you a vegan?

        If not, who are you to say you know what’s best for our movement?

        Activism from all sides is important to the cause. You downplaying this Lemming’s activism is serving to silence their voice

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            2 months ago

            Try telling that to the fascist Israelis committing a live stream Holocaust.

            People are either receptive or not. Activists can choose how to communicate their message. Just because it doesn’t work for you, that doesn’t mean it won’t work for others.

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        I’m with this guy.

        Also I think even if they want to make the most forfecul point possible, I don’t think talking about consent is the greatest thing.

        Should really impress the fact that they’re won’t produce milk unless they’ve been pregnant. So dairy cows are kept pregnant as much as possible. They live like five years then collapse of exhaustion and get carted to the slaughterhouse.

        The cows my late grandma tended to in her youth lived like 20 years.

        Industrial intensive farming is immoral as fuck but I can’t really pretend like the cow understands sexual assault.

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          2 months ago

          Its also an insult to actual rape victims to equate artificial insemination of a cow with rape. Just using their real suffering as propaganda to push an agenda

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            Have you ever been forcefully impregnated before?

            Have you even had your recent new born separated from you and made orphan?

            Just because the sexual act isn’t between the same species, and because the subordinate doesn’t resist, doesn’t make it any more wrong.

            And how do you know that cows DON’T resist being artificially inseminated? How do you know you can generalize?

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              First two questions: False equivalency, I am not livestock.

              Last question: It’s interesting that you have such extreme views without seeming to know anything about it. You should probably inform yourself and learn something about dairy, before choosing an extreme and naive conviction. I know the cows do not resist because they are artificially inseminated while in estrus.

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                Your application of false equivalency here just cements my idea of you. You’re egocentric and anthropocentrist, and only care about the human species for moral consideration. You’re no different to me than the fascists in power the world over that seek to dominate minority groups.

                Cows have a variety of responses to being artificially inseminated. Because of this, farmers have adopted different tactics to force them to submit, whether that’s using drugs, stun guns, cages that don’t allow the cows to flee. Whether cows resist, which is possible, or they submit doesn’t matter. They are still raped at the end of the day.

                If YOU know so much about the dairy industry, then you either know the answers to this debate and choose to ignore them because it makes you look bad, or you ignore the reality altogether and tell yourself bedtime stories to cope with your already existing immoral habits.

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                  You’re no different to me than the fascists in power the world over that seek to dominate minority groups.

                  Yep, gotta make everything black and white in order to process the world. Very healthy “if you eat dairy you’re a fascist” 😂 It’s at that ridiculous statement that someone capable of self reflection would realize they are wrong. Your childish naivety is showing.

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                    If you can’t see how domesticating animals is a form of fascism, just applied to non-humans, then I can’t save you. You’re reinforcing your pre-existing beliefs by insulating yourself with lies. Do me and all rape victims a favor: learn about the evil and corrupt animal ag industry, and its effects on both humans and animals. You’ll come back with a stronger sense of morality than whatever flimsy shit you call yours now