Citation needed. I don’t use one. If my coworkers do, they’re very quiet about it. More than half the posts I see promoting them, even as “just a tool,” are from people with obvious conflicts of interest. What’s “clear” to me is that the Overton window has been dragged kicking and screaming to the extreme end of the scale by five years of constant press releases masquerading as news and billions of dollars of market speculation.
I’m not going to delegate the easiest part of my job to something that’s undeniably worse at it. I’m not going to pass up opportunities to understand a system better in hopes of getting 30-minute tasks done in 10. And I’m definitely not going to pay for the privilege.
I’ve found them useful, sometimes, but nothing like a fraction of what the hype would suggest.
They’re not adequate replacements for code reviewers, but getting an AI code review does let me occasionally fix a couple of blunders before I waste another human’s time with them.
I’ve also had the occasional bit of luck with “why am I getting this error” questions, where it saved me 10 minutes of digging through the code myself.
“Create some test data and a smoke test for this feature” is another good timesaver for what would normally be very tedious drudge work.
What I have given up on is “implement a feature that does X” questions, because it invariably creates more work than it saves. Companies selling “type in your app idea and it’ll write the code” solutions are snake-oil salesman.
I have been using it a bit, still can’t decide if it is useful or not though… It can occasionally suggest a blatantly obvious couple of lines of code here and there, but along the way I get inundated with annoying suggestions that are useless and I haven’t gotten used to ignoring them.
I mostly work with a niche area the LLMs seem broadly clueless about, and prompt driven code is almost always useless except when dealing with a super boilerplate usage of a common library.
I do know some people that deal with amazingly mundane and common functions and they are amazed that it can pretty much do their jobs, but they never really impressed me before anyway and I wondered how they had a job…
That is NOT what that says. It says 47% of STACK OVERFLOW RESPONDENTS REPORT using AI. That does not represent 47% of devs.
If you go to 4chan and poll of chuds, you’re going to get a high percentage of respondents affirming your query. You went to stackoverflow and asked about AI. Think about the user base.
thanks but i felt like that’d be obvious from the URL lol. the SO survey is probably the largest sample size we have for this…
…that isn’t outright from an AI company (not that SO doesn’t have AI but they’re still an answers company as opposed to, say, Cursor AI whose main selling point is the AI. even Zed, the company behind the blog linked in the post, has a much higher emphasis on AI) and their sample should be pretty close to all online devs, maybe slightly exclusionary of very experienced ones. SO’s evangelist proportion is not even close to 4chan’s chud proportion; not sure why had the impression needed to name that comparison.
it’s not like Codidact has a dev survey and even if they had one they’d have as much bias as this comment section
Gee, guess why. Given the current culture of hate and ostracism I would never outright say IRL that I like it or use it a lot. I would say something like “yeah, I think it can sometimes be useful when used carefully and I sometimes use it too”. While in reality it would mean that it actually writes 95% of code under my micromanagement.
Wut. At software shops the prevailing atmosphere is that you should use it and broadcast it as much as possible. This person’s experience is not normal
Okay, to be fair, my knowledge of the current culture in industry is very limited. It’s mostly impression formed by online conversations, not limited to Lemmy. Last project I worked at it was illegal to use public LLMs because of intellectual property (and maybe even GDPR) concerns. We had a local scope-limited LLM integration though and that one was allowed, but there was literally a single person across multiple departments who used it and it was a “middle” frontend dev and it was only for autocomplete. Backenders wouldn’t even consider it.
Citation needed. I don’t use one. If my coworkers do, they’re very quiet about it. More than half the posts I see promoting them, even as “just a tool,” are from people with obvious conflicts of interest. What’s “clear” to me is that the Overton window has been dragged kicking and screaming to the extreme end of the scale by five years of constant press releases masquerading as news and billions of dollars of market speculation.
I’m not going to delegate the easiest part of my job to something that’s undeniably worse at it. I’m not going to pass up opportunities to understand a system better in hopes of getting 30-minute tasks done in 10. And I’m definitely not going to pay for the privilege.
I’ve found them useful, sometimes, but nothing like a fraction of what the hype would suggest.
They’re not adequate replacements for code reviewers, but getting an AI code review does let me occasionally fix a couple of blunders before I waste another human’s time with them.
I’ve also had the occasional bit of luck with “why am I getting this error” questions, where it saved me 10 minutes of digging through the code myself.
“Create some test data and a smoke test for this feature” is another good timesaver for what would normally be very tedious drudge work.
What I have given up on is “implement a feature that does X” questions, because it invariably creates more work than it saves. Companies selling “type in your app idea and it’ll write the code” solutions are snake-oil salesman.
I have been using it a bit, still can’t decide if it is useful or not though… It can occasionally suggest a blatantly obvious couple of lines of code here and there, but along the way I get inundated with annoying suggestions that are useless and I haven’t gotten used to ignoring them.
I mostly work with a niche area the LLMs seem broadly clueless about, and prompt driven code is almost always useless except when dealing with a super boilerplate usage of a common library.
I do know some people that deal with amazingly mundane and common functions and they are amazed that it can pretty much do their jobs, but they never really impressed me before anyway and I wondered how they had a job…
I don’t use one, and my coworkers that do use them are very loud about it, and worse at their jobs than they were a year ago.
https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/ai/
47% daily use
That is NOT what that says. It says 47% of STACK OVERFLOW RESPONDENTS REPORT using AI. That does not represent 47% of devs.
If you go to 4chan and poll of chuds, you’re going to get a high percentage of respondents affirming your query. You went to stackoverflow and asked about AI. Think about the user base.
thanks but i felt like that’d be obvious from the URL lol. the SO survey is probably the largest sample size we have for this…
…that isn’t outright from an AI company (not that SO doesn’t have AI but they’re still an answers company as opposed to, say, Cursor AI whose main selling point is the AI. even Zed, the company behind the blog linked in the post, has a much higher emphasis on AI) and their sample should be pretty close to all online devs, maybe slightly exclusionary of very experienced ones. SO’s evangelist proportion is not even close to 4chan’s chud proportion; not sure why had the impression needed to name that comparison.
it’s not like Codidact has a dev survey and even if they had one they’d have as much bias as this comment section
Gee, guess why. Given the current culture of hate and ostracism I would never outright say IRL that I like it or use it a lot. I would say something like “yeah, I think it can sometimes be useful when used carefully and I sometimes use it too”. While in reality it would mean that it actually writes 95% of code under my micromanagement.
Wut. At software shops the prevailing atmosphere is that you should use it and broadcast it as much as possible. This person’s experience is not normal
Okay, to be fair, my knowledge of the current culture in industry is very limited. It’s mostly impression formed by online conversations, not limited to Lemmy. Last project I worked at it was illegal to use public LLMs because of intellectual property (and maybe even GDPR) concerns. We had a local scope-limited LLM integration though and that one was allowed, but there was literally a single person across multiple departments who used it and it was a “middle” frontend dev and it was only for autocomplete. Backenders wouldn’t even consider it.
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