Here’s the “rule”: The first time you speak to someone they should be fully clothed, unless there is a clothing malfunction you are attempting to resolve and that requires spoken communication.
It’s fine to make friends at the gym, tho that’s not what I’m ever there for. It’s fine to talk in the sauna, to people you are already on speaking terms with. It’s not okay to see someone in the sauna, appreciate their body, and use that as motivation to talk to them for the first time.
I’m sure there are also circles where less-clothed social events do happen where not everyone at the event is already mutually acquainted. While I’ve never been to those event myself and haven’t be told the social protocols explicitly, I would assume that if you aren’t crashing the event, you are allowed to speak to less-clothed persons you’ve not met before, to introduce yourself at least.
(I’m not a pretty person, so I think I’d be even more uncomfortable that such events than I am at other social events.)
Also, always assume your intentions are transparent as glass even before you open your mouth. People can see and tell why you’re talking to them. I hate that this is something’s I learnt through trial and error.
Complete disagree. I’ve been accused of intentions I didn’t have and ascribed intentions to others that didn’t have them. Even in face-to-face communications, we are really just guessing at intent and it is often quite opaque.
Here’s the “rule”: The first time you speak to someone they should be fully clothed, unless there is a clothing malfunction you are attempting to resolve and that requires spoken communication.
It’s fine to make friends at the gym, tho that’s not what I’m ever there for. It’s fine to talk in the sauna, to people you are already on speaking terms with. It’s not okay to see someone in the sauna, appreciate their body, and use that as motivation to talk to them for the first time.
Not true, you may address anyone at any point in the sauna if you bend over, spread your ass cheeks and lip sync every word you say with your anus.
I’m sure there are also circles where less-clothed social events do happen where not everyone at the event is already mutually acquainted. While I’ve never been to those event myself and haven’t be told the social protocols explicitly, I would assume that if you aren’t crashing the event, you are allowed to speak to less-clothed persons you’ve not met before, to introduce yourself at least.
(I’m not a pretty person, so I think I’d be even more uncomfortable that such events than I am at other social events.)
A “do you mind if I pour some water on the stones?” Is a good opener. Then you wait for them to engage. If they don’t, so be it.
Well that’s just practical. It’s exempt from the rule.
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Also, always assume your intentions are transparent as glass even before you open your mouth. People can see and tell why you’re talking to them. I hate that this is something’s I learnt through trial and error.
Complete disagree. I’ve been accused of intentions I didn’t have and ascribed intentions to others that didn’t have them. Even in face-to-face communications, we are really just guessing at intent and it is often quite opaque.
In case of OOP, any attempt to hide only makes it weirder.
I agree with you though. But for people like oop it’s better they keep this assumption
Only things said to strangers in a gym:
You finished with that, or can I go in between?
Can you spot me?