• Jhex@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    that makes little sense, why bother with a new release at all if it’s just the same phone from last year? why not just keep the 17 around for another year?

    To clarify, I agree with your advice to not upgrade yearly, I just don’t think that’s what Apple is shooting for, it’s what Apple may be achieving by their lack of innovation and constant release of identical phones

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      I don’t know anyone these days who buys a new iPhone each year.

      Used to be worth it, now they’re refreshes.

      My 15promax is still spec and feature wise ahead of the current iphoneSE.

      No idea if I’ll get the new one, maybe wait another year. Though the better camera is what I really want.

      For clarity I think I’m dead smack in their demographic, I have expendable income and COULD buy a new phone each year, I’m in an Apple ecosystem and develop on Apple.

      I don’t speak for everyone obviously, but I think it’s more of a meme and anti-apple/tech-tribalism that pushes the idea of “must consume new phone”

      Android really pushes you to keep upgrading because the phones stop being supported, it’s wild. iPhones receive updates for quite some time. The iPhone 11 from pre-Covid is still marked as capable of ios27 so still receives updates.

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        Android flagships are now catching up with iPhone on support cycles but in hindsight it’s wild to me how as a former Apple hater I along with a lot of other people also hated Apple for making their phones obsolete every few years by dropping support. Could’ve just googled to see how wrong I was lmao

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        I think the “you must have all the latest updates or you’re a security risk” thing is a bit overblown, possibly by the companies themselves who want to make sure you install all their latest spyware.

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          I can promise you it isn’t. Security updates on a device that’s connected to the internet at all times is very important.

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            And how many of those updates are security updates?

            And how many of those security updates are remote code execution exploits?

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              And Apple update even old iOS devices. I have a 14 year old iPad that still gets security updates on iOS 12.

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      Because other manufacturers will make a new phone and you still need to compete with them for customers who want phones that year. People don’t get their phones in uniform cycles and phones can die unexpectedly

      Nobody should and most don’t buy a phone every year. But there are still a lot of people buying new phones every year if that makes sense.

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      I mean, if my phone was 5 years old and I was to upgrade phone now and pick iPhone - it’d be 16 (mostly due to price). If it was to happen next year - it’d probably be 17 instead, and then then next upgrade would be 16 (or 17) + 5 (or how long you’re okay with old phone). So, there’s a bit more of convenience here than if releases were once in 5 years, even if you’re not being that one Apple fan everybody knows, who upgrades everything yearly.

      I’m not actually sure about 17/18’s tho as their pricing was certainly affected by RAMpocalypse.