Ok, then you are a minority even among Protestants.
I’d love to see you explain to Catholics and Orthodox Christians how they’re not Christians and Christianity was somehow founded in 1517, 1484 years after Christ was crucified.
First of all, I’m not saying that: true Christianity existed before the Catholic Church, there were others who taught more accurate doctrines like the precursors to the primitive baptists, Gottschalk of Orbais, Jan Hus, etc. alongside the Catholic Church: 1517 was simply a revival of these earlier ideas (obviously that’s way oversimplified, if I was to do so tell catholics, I’d explain it in a lot more detail, do my homework etc.)
Yeah, nah, that’s not how Christianity works, or how religions work outside of tiny movements or strict organisations.
Almost from Jesus’s death Christianity diverged as the gospel spread through word of mouth, it’s why alongside the canonical Gospels you had various different non canonical Gospels, because before things were written down and a canon formed, people told different stories about Jesus.
You also had various different Christianities form straight from the getgo. The Thomasines, the Coptic Church, the Ethiopian church are major examples, The Gnostics are a more extreme example. Hell in the bible itself you see two different currents with Paul and James.
Also the idea that one follows the “One True Church” is a silly statement if you glance at the Bible or records of the early church. Do you attend a house church, where members of the community worship at someone’s home? Do you take communion as part of a symposium-like meal like the early Christians did in Paul’s time? Do you reject traditional property norms, holding things in common? Do you, as Jesus said before telling us the Lord’s prayer, reject big public shows of piety and long babbling prayers, only saying the Lord’s prayer?
As religions spread, they begin to develop variations, with Protestantism doubly so. Saying Catholicism isn’t a form of Christianity is akin to a Theravada Buddhist saying that they are the only true form of the Drama, or an Anarchist saying a Trade Unionist isn’t a leftist.
No, I’m not a member of a church. I think they’ve all become corrupt, you’d have to work hard to prove to me that your church is the right one. And by the way: just because a so-called ‘church’ like the catholics proclaim themselves followers of god, it doesn’t make them so. What man believed that a church where the preachers molest children (not just now, but all throughout their history) could possibly be the church of Christ? Isn’t that a pretty big red flag right there?
just because a so-called ‘church’ like the catholics proclaim themselves followers of god, it doesn’t make them so.
Compare to the calvinists and presbyters insisting they’re not a part of a christian church. It’s just approaching this same conclusion from the different end.
Found the American Protestant.
Nobody outside of the United States believes Catholics aren’t Christian.
Incorrect.
I’m from England, land of the Puritans (im not saying I am a puritan, but I’ve certainly inherited their anti-Catholic stance.)
Ok, then you are a minority even among Protestants.
I’d love to see you explain to Catholics and Orthodox Christians how they’re not Christians and Christianity was somehow founded in 1517, 1484 years after Christ was crucified.
First of all, I’m not saying that: true Christianity existed before the Catholic Church, there were others who taught more accurate doctrines like the precursors to the primitive baptists, Gottschalk of Orbais, Jan Hus, etc. alongside the Catholic Church: 1517 was simply a revival of these earlier ideas (obviously that’s way oversimplified, if I was to do so tell catholics, I’d explain it in a lot more detail, do my homework etc.)
Yeah, nah, that’s not how Christianity works, or how religions work outside of tiny movements or strict organisations.
Almost from Jesus’s death Christianity diverged as the gospel spread through word of mouth, it’s why alongside the canonical Gospels you had various different non canonical Gospels, because before things were written down and a canon formed, people told different stories about Jesus.
You also had various different Christianities form straight from the getgo. The Thomasines, the Coptic Church, the Ethiopian church are major examples, The Gnostics are a more extreme example. Hell in the bible itself you see two different currents with Paul and James.
Also the idea that one follows the “One True Church” is a silly statement if you glance at the Bible or records of the early church. Do you attend a house church, where members of the community worship at someone’s home? Do you take communion as part of a symposium-like meal like the early Christians did in Paul’s time? Do you reject traditional property norms, holding things in common? Do you, as Jesus said before telling us the Lord’s prayer, reject big public shows of piety and long babbling prayers, only saying the Lord’s prayer?
As religions spread, they begin to develop variations, with Protestantism doubly so. Saying Catholicism isn’t a form of Christianity is akin to a Theravada Buddhist saying that they are the only true form of the Drama, or an Anarchist saying a Trade Unionist isn’t a leftist.
No, I’m not a member of a church. I think they’ve all become corrupt, you’d have to work hard to prove to me that your church is the right one. And by the way: just because a so-called ‘church’ like the catholics proclaim themselves followers of god, it doesn’t make them so. What man believed that a church where the preachers molest children (not just now, but all throughout their history) could possibly be the church of Christ? Isn’t that a pretty big red flag right there?
Compare to the calvinists and presbyters insisting they’re not a part of a christian church. It’s just approaching this same conclusion from the different end.