Which is still far more chance of changing things than you get by voting more power to the people actively opposed to changing anything that benefits their donors.
Except that isn’t true. By ceding your choice, you enable the worse outcome. That’s fine by you thought because really you’re an accelerationist above all else. Hasten the burn, you want to pickup the ashes
The worse outcome is either Wall St fellating warmonger winning . The worse outcome is ShitLibs like you getting their wish to return to the pre-Trump status quo.
you’re an accelerationist above all else.
Thanks for making it so obvious this early on the convo that you don’t know what the words you’re using mean. It’ll save a lot of confusion later
You can tell one of the podcasts or blusky accounts BlueMaga liberals get their talking points from used this term by the way they’ve all started constantly parroting it and usually using it wrong.
the assumption that you’re ceding your choice or that your choice is going to make a difference is were reality gets disconnected.
the fact of the matter is, we’ve been voting this way for most of a century now and it has already lead us to the same places that your understanding of accelerationism would lead us to anyways – climate change that’s guaranteed to fuck up human civilization; a panopticon powered by AI, financed by genociders, and will keep feeding off your body for the rest of your life like you’re in the matrix; and a ruling epstein class that’s so privileged it can literally publicly flaunt it’s depraved desires to fuck/kill children with zero repercussions.
Chastising people because they voted one of the two viable options is self defeating bullshit. And drawing larger conclusions about them is wrong. Always get roped in the same tired argument on Lemmy
“self defeating”: hey maybe don’t vote for people committing genocide
Not “self defeating”: WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS ALWAYS AND FOREVER NO MATTER WHAT AND ALL THERE IS TO DO IS VOTE THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO BE DONE A BETTER WORLD IS IMPOSSIBLE
You think you raise your voice by voting for democrats no matter what? Your idea of speaking out is to… Actively support the people doing the thing you want to speak out against?
the meme is pointing out the willful ignorance induced blindspot that liberal smugness makes impossible to address – the same willful ignorance that makes this meme feel like it’s doing nothing more chastising.
and these conversations are necessary since history has already proven that we keep doing the same thing over and over again and we keep getting the same results – yet americans chose to ignore history and have fooled themselves into believing that we can continue to keep doing the same thing anyways.
We’re not having a conversation as much as you’re sharing your viewpoint that voters are to blame for their problems and I’m calling a meme dumb. One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community.
One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community.
and it’s not you because you’re incapable of understanding the point of the meme annd the rest of us who do understand it are trying to explain to to the rest of you who don’t understand it.
pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it’s fair game to talk about it – the disconnect is that you’re incapable of understanding it because you don’t have the background understanding it requires.
that doesn’t mean you’re stupid or dumb – i used to be a liberal so i can understand how i also wouldn’t have been able to understand it if i hadn’t put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into.
There is more to do than just vote. Not voting democrat isn’t the only thing in the world.
Secondly Not voting for a candidate is not “ceding” anything, you are, by definition, not giving them something. In reality “vote blue no matter who” is “ceding your choice”, since you cede all leverage and all reason to consider you when considering popular support for policy positions, since you will vote for them no matter what. You have ceded your vote to them.
You are also using accelerationist incorrectly. An accelerationist would vote for the most competent accumulator of capital, since an accelerationist believes this to be the end-point of capitalism and this point must be reached before socialist revolution can happen. They wish to get to that point as quickly as possible. The accelerationist position would most likely lead to a person voting democrat, since they are more competent administrators of empire.
Try engaging with the text. It will, at least, allow you to make a dunk people actually appreciate. Though I understand it can be scary to get challenged and have to think about things.
Which is still far more chance of changing things than you get by voting more power to the people actively opposed to changing anything that benefits their donors.
Except that isn’t true. By ceding your choice, you enable the worse outcome. That’s fine by you thought because really you’re an accelerationist above all else. Hasten the burn, you want to pickup the ashes
The worse outcome is either Wall St fellating warmonger winning . The worse outcome is ShitLibs like you getting their wish to return to the pre-Trump status quo.
Thanks for making it so obvious this early on the convo that you don’t know what the words you’re using mean. It’ll save a lot of confusion later
You can tell one of the podcasts or blusky accounts BlueMaga liberals get their talking points from used this term by the way they’ve all started constantly parroting it and usually using it wrong.
Never heard that one before. Thank goodness for the Lemmy and it’s deep well of right-think. You can truly find a diverse set of opinions here
Like a child that just discovered sarcasm
Very mature
Youre getting good at the sarcasm, but you should probably practice reading comprehension so you realise when we’re talking about you.
You are very bad at trolling me in my replies
A response so bad you had to downvote it yourself lol
the assumption that you’re ceding your choice or that your choice is going to make a difference is were reality gets disconnected.
the fact of the matter is, we’ve been voting this way for most of a century now and it has already lead us to the same places that your understanding of accelerationism would lead us to anyways – climate change that’s guaranteed to fuck up human civilization; a panopticon powered by AI, financed by genociders, and will keep feeding off your body for the rest of your life like you’re in the matrix; and a ruling epstein class that’s so privileged it can literally publicly flaunt it’s depraved desires to fuck/kill children with zero repercussions.
Chastising people because they voted one of the two viable options is self defeating bullshit. And drawing larger conclusions about them is wrong. Always get roped in the same tired argument on Lemmy
“self defeating”: hey maybe don’t vote for people committing genocide
Not “self defeating”: WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS ALWAYS AND FOREVER NO MATTER WHAT AND ALL THERE IS TO DO IS VOTE THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO BE DONE A BETTER WORLD IS IMPOSSIBLE
Maybe don’t vote, got it. Keep your voice down
You think you raise your voice by voting for democrats no matter what? Your idea of speaking out is to… Actively support the people doing the thing you want to speak out against?
I’m sorry, what community am I in again?
The wrong one. Go back to reddit.
the meme is pointing out the willful ignorance induced blindspot that liberal smugness makes impossible to address – the same willful ignorance that makes this meme feel like it’s doing nothing more chastising.
and these conversations are necessary since history has already proven that we keep doing the same thing over and over again and we keep getting the same results – yet americans chose to ignore history and have fooled themselves into believing that we can continue to keep doing the same thing anyways.
We’re not having a conversation as much as you’re sharing your viewpoint that voters are to blame for their problems and I’m calling a meme dumb. One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community.
and it’s not you because you’re incapable of understanding the point of the meme annd the rest of us who do understand it are trying to explain to to the rest of you who don’t understand it.
You’re discussing your deeply held political beliefs, using this awful meme as a springboard. Making personal attacks in the process.
I’m saying the meme is shit. And you won’t stand for it! Keep doing God’s work
pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it’s fair game to talk about it – the disconnect is that you’re incapable of understanding it because you don’t have the background understanding it requires.
that doesn’t mean you’re stupid or dumb – i used to be a liberal so i can understand how i also wouldn’t have been able to understand it if i hadn’t put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into.
Seems like Harris wasn’t a viable option either
Wow what a zinger. Nice one
Go back to reddit
Even better the second time
Have fun watching the democrats become ever more fascist and still lose.
There is more to do than just vote. Not voting democrat isn’t the only thing in the world.
Secondly Not voting for a candidate is not “ceding” anything, you are, by definition, not giving them something. In reality “vote blue no matter who” is “ceding your choice”, since you cede all leverage and all reason to consider you when considering popular support for policy positions, since you will vote for them no matter what. You have ceded your vote to them.
You are also using accelerationist incorrectly. An accelerationist would vote for the most competent accumulator of capital, since an accelerationist believes this to be the end-point of capitalism and this point must be reached before socialist revolution can happen. They wish to get to that point as quickly as possible. The accelerationist position would most likely lead to a person voting democrat, since they are more competent administrators of empire.
This could be the dumbest shit I’ve ever read
Try engaging with the text. It will, at least, allow you to make a dunk people actually appreciate. Though I understand it can be scary to get challenged and have to think about things.
I’m not here to flex on people or be appreciated. If you think I’m reading your walls of text…
Imagine thinking a few paragraphs are walls of text lol. What an oaf you are. Thanks for acting as the village idiot, I guess.
I meant it was unintelligible, not that it was long
Sure you did, oaf.