It literally is better though, like quantifiably. Fewer people are having their lives ruined. Not only are fewer of them being removed from the interior US but those who are are often being told to leave rather than thrown in cages. Your claim was that marginalized people in the US do not do better under democrats, but they do, so your conclusion that voting is useless is illogical. If this doesn’t matter now, why did you suggest it as something that would support your argument earlier?
You aren’t understanding what I am saying. When you say that “fewer people…” it means that you’ve resigned that there will always be victims under both parties.
And no, marginalized people still do not do better under Democrats, I mean ffs Roe v. Wade was overturned during Biden’s term, just so it could be used as election bait.
so your conclusion that voting is useless is illogical. If this doesn’t matter now, why did you suggest it as something that would support your argument earlier?
It matters that arguing for and supporting a system that legitimizes genocide, is legitimizing it to other people, you’re putting effort into getting others to see it is a legitimate way of making “change” but that would mean accepting genocide at MINIMUM.
Despite this, voting does not matter in the system as it’s made to serve capital and if that is ever threatened then they will drop that facade and go fascist.
The supreme court makes court decisions, not the sitting president. In the vote to overturn Roe v Wade, all 6 justices appointed by a republican government voted to overturn it (except kind of Roberts), and all 3 justices appointed by a democratic government voted to keep it. Seems pretty clear to me.
Systems don’t make things happen, people do. It doesn’t matter what system you have, if the people in it want something to happen, it will happen. I have not resigned myself to a system of suffering because it is not the system that causes the suffering, but the people in it. You’re acting like a representative democratic republic in a vacuum would just start genociding people, or that a communist system would not be capable of it.
Voting clearly matters because it elects different people who will vote for different policies. Will both major parties keep voting for genocide? Yes, although at different rates. Will they support capitalism? Definitely. But would roe v wade have been overturned if we had a majority of supreme court justices be on the left? No. Does that not matter?
If they do “drop the facade”, then sure, voting would not matter and it would be clear to see and people would act accordingly. Is that not a good outcome for organizing a revolution?
And what party has done fuck all to avoid a conservative Supreme Court? The democrats. What party was in power when roe v Wade was overturned? What party got advance warning it would be overturned? What party did fuck all? The democrats. They give as much of a fuck about the Supreme Court as the republicans do.
This is not any better. It’s still a 99% Hitler vs. 100% Hitler
https://time.com/6550047/joe-biden-immigration-private-prisons/
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/15/ice-detention-expansion-biden-trump-deportation
Tom Homan, the “Border Czar” was one appointed by Obama and was even given a medal by him for his contributions of deporting people.
It literally is better though, like quantifiably. Fewer people are having their lives ruined. Not only are fewer of them being removed from the interior US but those who are are often being told to leave rather than thrown in cages. Your claim was that marginalized people in the US do not do better under democrats, but they do, so your conclusion that voting is useless is illogical. If this doesn’t matter now, why did you suggest it as something that would support your argument earlier?
You aren’t understanding what I am saying. When you say that “fewer people…” it means that you’ve resigned that there will always be victims under both parties.
And no, marginalized people still do not do better under Democrats, I mean ffs Roe v. Wade was overturned during Biden’s term, just so it could be used as election bait.
It matters that arguing for and supporting a system that legitimizes genocide, is legitimizing it to other people, you’re putting effort into getting others to see it is a legitimate way of making “change” but that would mean accepting genocide at MINIMUM.
Despite this, voting does not matter in the system as it’s made to serve capital and if that is ever threatened then they will drop that facade and go fascist.
The supreme court makes court decisions, not the sitting president. In the vote to overturn Roe v Wade, all 6 justices appointed by a republican government voted to overturn it (except kind of Roberts), and all 3 justices appointed by a democratic government voted to keep it. Seems pretty clear to me.
Systems don’t make things happen, people do. It doesn’t matter what system you have, if the people in it want something to happen, it will happen. I have not resigned myself to a system of suffering because it is not the system that causes the suffering, but the people in it. You’re acting like a representative democratic republic in a vacuum would just start genociding people, or that a communist system would not be capable of it.
Voting clearly matters because it elects different people who will vote for different policies. Will both major parties keep voting for genocide? Yes, although at different rates. Will they support capitalism? Definitely. But would roe v wade have been overturned if we had a majority of supreme court justices be on the left? No. Does that not matter?
If they do “drop the facade”, then sure, voting would not matter and it would be clear to see and people would act accordingly. Is that not a good outcome for organizing a revolution?
And what party has done fuck all to avoid a conservative Supreme Court? The democrats. What party was in power when roe v Wade was overturned? What party got advance warning it would be overturned? What party did fuck all? The democrats. They give as much of a fuck about the Supreme Court as the republicans do.