• blitzen@lemmy.ca
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    10 小时前

    We need to figure out how to pay for road upkeep somehow.

    That’s not to say the way gas taxes are allocated to road maintenance now is perfect. Far from it. But on paper (at least where I’m from) that’s how roads are maintained.

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      12 小时前

      Yeah, fuel taxes are supposed to pay for that. Given the state of the roads at least here in California, it sure doesn’t look like it happens.

      • blitzen@lemmy.ca
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        10 小时前

        I’m also in California and would agree. The word “supposed” is doing a lot of work there.

        On the other hand, with so many EVs in California we have to at least consider a part of that is because of the loss of gas tax income.

    • yes_this_time@lemmy.world
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      12 小时前

      Depending on the jurisdiction… Gas taxes go towards externalities largely. Roads are funded through general revenue. Perversely, those who don’t drive subsidize drivers.

      If I could wave a wand that I dont have:

      Gas tax to cover externalities

      Tire tax to cover externalities

      Toll fees to cover usage.

      Reduce income tax and increase social assistance proportionally.

      Obviously that would be impossible to sell, but it would be more fair, and incentive better outcomes.

      • SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world
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        11 小时前

        Sales tax makes sense to cover roads because a lot of the wear and tear on the roads is caused by the trucks that deliver goods. Even if you bike to the store, you are using the roads in that way.

        • yes_this_time@lemmy.world
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          10 小时前

          Cars sitting in the garage have less impact than cars on the road though.

          With tolls you can be more targeted. A road in a city has more cost (land and maintenance) and greater externalities (negatively impacts more people)