Years ago, I read an article that this is a big problem already in the north of Sweden. They have no sunset for quite a while in winter summer.
They solve it with a rule somewhere that you can orient this on the next major city. Some interpret that to be Stockholm, others as the next major Islamic city which is Istanbul. Both feel bad about eating while the sun is out, especially when they are born is the “Muslim world”, therefore near the equator relatively speaking
Such weak minds, to many there’s no compromises if somebody happens to have a different religion, but if it affects themselves the rules are very malleable.
Not talking specificly about Muslims, I see this with other religious fundamentalist as well.
For example saw orthodox Jews during a hot summer in NYC. The fuse blew out and AC stopped working, and apparently turning it back on was considered a work so they instead asked me to turn it on. So basically they are not allowed to do work, but asking someone to do the work for them on Sabbat is acceptable in God’s eyes?
I feel you misunderstood my comment. The context is that moslems have the rule not to eat before sunset during Ramadan which is difficult if the sun doesn’t set. All they judge is themselves. They feel guilty for not living up to their standards but finding a “cheat” if you will which isn’t fundamentalist at all, just normal practice
So they should starve? The religion itself says self harm is forbidden. If it comes between disobeying religion and self harm you should choose disobeying religion. For example if you are starving you are permitted to eat non halal food.
Just more proof that the religion is fake: it only mentions things in a certain location because that’s where its authors were. They couldn’t have conceived of a place IRL where the sun never sets.
You are factually incorrect. The scriptures themselves talk about what to do in situations when the sun doesn’t set (in particular with regard to prayer). To reiterate, it’s not some religious thinker’s opinion, but the scriptures themselves.
We said, “Allah’s Messenger, how long would he stay on the earth?” He (ﷺ) said, “For forty days, one day like a year and one day like a month and one day like a week and the rest of the days would be like your days.” We said, “Allah’s Messenger, would one day’s prayer suffice for the prayers of day equal to one year?” Thereupon he (ﷺ) said, “No, but you must make an estimate of time (and then observe prayer).”
I appreciate you providing a source instead of telling the other commenter to find it themselves. You didn’t have to, but you did anyway, and I think in this day and age that’s very respectable.
Years ago, I read an article that this is a big problem already in the north of Sweden. They have no sunset for quite a while in
wintersummer.They solve it with a rule somewhere that you can orient this on the next major city. Some interpret that to be Stockholm, others as the next major Islamic city which is Istanbul. Both feel bad about eating while the sun is out, especially when they are born is the “Muslim world”, therefore near the equator relatively speaking
I heard that they would just use the sunrise and sunset of Mecca.
Probably just a difference between the different denominations tho.
Such weak minds, to many there’s no compromises if somebody happens to have a different religion, but if it affects themselves the rules are very malleable.
Not talking specificly about Muslims, I see this with other religious fundamentalist as well.
For example saw orthodox Jews during a hot summer in NYC. The fuse blew out and AC stopped working, and apparently turning it back on was considered a work so they instead asked me to turn it on. So basically they are not allowed to do work, but asking someone to do the work for them on Sabbat is acceptable in God’s eyes?
I feel you misunderstood my comment. The context is that moslems have the rule not to eat before sunset during Ramadan which is difficult if the sun doesn’t set. All they judge is themselves. They feel guilty for not living up to their standards but finding a “cheat” if you will which isn’t fundamentalist at all, just normal practice
So they should starve? The religion itself says self harm is forbidden. If it comes between disobeying religion and self harm you should choose disobeying religion. For example if you are starving you are permitted to eat non halal food.
Just more proof that the religion is fake: it only mentions things in a certain location because that’s where its authors were. They couldn’t have conceived of a place IRL where the sun never sets.
You are factually incorrect. The scriptures themselves talk about what to do in situations when the sun doesn’t set (in particular with regard to prayer). To reiterate, it’s not some religious thinker’s opinion, but the scriptures themselves.
Sauce?
Sure. When discussing the antichrist:
We said, “Allah’s Messenger, how long would he stay on the earth?” He (ﷺ) said, “For forty days, one day like a year and one day like a month and one day like a week and the rest of the days would be like your days.” We said, “Allah’s Messenger, would one day’s prayer suffice for the prayers of day equal to one year?” Thereupon he (ﷺ) said, “No, but you must make an estimate of time (and then observe prayer).”
https://sunnah.com/muslim:2937a
This doesn’t prove Islam is fake or real, but we should approach subjects we aren’t familiar with with a touch more humility.
Edit: worth noting that fasting runs off prayer times. Can’t have food/drink/sex between the first and fourth prayer.
I appreciate you providing a source instead of telling the other commenter to find it themselves. You didn’t have to, but you did anyway, and I think in this day and age that’s very respectable.