• DupaCycki@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    I’m not American, so I may be wrong, but I feel like the ‘Americans can’t protest’ people, and the ‘please protest peacefully’ people are two entirely separate groups.

    Personally I would absolutely agree with the statement that Americans can’t protest. Not just like the French, but at all. They’ve been socially engineered to be obedient ever since their country was founded (literally).

    And I would also not disagree with Americans burning down police stations. Others may, but I’m pretty sure they’d never agree with the statement in the first place.

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    9 hours ago

    Seems like a straw man argument: the squeamish people are likely not in the same group that are admiring French protests…

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    11 hours ago

    Right? Like apparently ‘no kings’ is very against civil disobedience. What? Our little group walks and fun signs are going to change systemic and heavily class based issues? Get real…

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      3 hours ago

      Ok but I hope that you do more than complain on internet about people that are or could be on your side.

      Things need to start somewhere and amplify from there.

      Revolution is not made possible by one single riot that would appear magicly out of nowhere.

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        3 hours ago

        This “event”? The protests have been going on for couple of weeks now. Here’s one poll done after some schools were burned. You can see a bump for Le Pen. It will be even bigger bump in the next polls.

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          43 minutes ago

          Ifop is also called opif here, which basically means random.

          Anyway far right is always way overestimated in France. When election come they go down 15%. Lookup 2022 presidency. The far left is also heavily underestimated. Center is inflated too vs real results (France dems kinda)

          This time over, the far left is much higher. Whatever the poll says, Le Pen might very well not even make it past the 1st round

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            28 minutes ago

            Ok, so there are recent poll, just not the ones you like? Also, I’m not talking about how accurate the polls are overall, just that Le Pen advantage grew after the protests and that it will probably keep growing as the protests get more violent.