And of course, this happens at the same time as they’re announcing a price increase
‘Burn baby burn’ is possibly the most appropriate song for them
TIL that there are dozens of websites to find strangers to put on their own family plan to get some extra cash, meanwhile they will manage the payments
I wouldn’t have imagined that there would be that many.
Paying a third party service to get into a stranger’s family plan is against the ToS, so at that point, if you’re willing to go against the ToS you can do it for free
Soulseek, people. Just pirate things and send money directly to artists (or buy merch). Fuck all these streaming companies
I have 8k albums in my personal collection, but I’ve been building it for years, most everything is pirated or shared between friends or purchased on bandcamp. I stream it while via plexamp when I’m working or not at home, it’s very nice.
I can also connect to my friends Plex servers. My one friend has 35k albums.
in case someone doesn’t believe me hahaEdit: damn he’s up to 39k
If they want it to be a household plan, they should call it that instead of falsely advertising it as a family plan.
Exactly. Families are extremely varied in logistics and presentation… Businesses in their ivory towers imagine a stereotypical nuclear family where everybody lives in the same house. Out of 5 families I personally know; only one fits that description.
Just? He’s been providing receipts for at least a couple of years.Apologies, clicked wrong thread.
“analysts are confident that music streaming services such as Spotify can enforce strict account policies, raise prices, and still make more money.”
They looked at Netflix and Disney and they are right. This is a no brainer if you’re a business. There’s literally no downside other than angry comments online.
Normies are getting into Stremio and normies will eventually get into a music pirating app if this continues.
If you’re going to pay for music, buy it DRM free on bandcamp etc, or CDs and rip them, you can make multiple copies and anyone in your family can play them at any time. Shitify is a joke.
https://thegrimejournalist.bandcamp.com/track/bandcamp-feat-jammz The bandcamp anthem!
anyone suprised?
This is desperation just like the disney ad thing.
I need to get a RED account, ugh, the entrance test seems annoying but I want to selfhost my own music.
Soulseek is pretty decent for music
Take picture of QR on primary phone. Send photo with QR to people on the family plan
@404found
This is not a measure against your extended family or close group of friends. This is to prevent selling to or sharing with strangers.
@return2ozmaThey are not that dumb. Apparently the code changes every few minutes (or seconds). Just a matter of time until they also check geolocation and/or IP during the scan.
Actually they probably already have geolocation enabled because the article says the family member needs to be at the same location when they scan the code.
I guess family plans are for members who live at the same house. If someone moves away to college then they can’t be a part of the family anymore.
I mean a simple video call where you share your screen, and some network thing/config might solve that? If they’re not given exact/precise location on eg your phone, will they default to country/city? There must be some workarounds to these silly things.
You can spoof a lot with enough motivation. But it’s likely inconvenient enough that it will “catch” 90% of the targets.
Who has that kind of motivation could also just pirate everything
spotify single-handedly increasing music piracy rates back to napster levels
There is a certain poetry to them recreating the problem they solved.
i just hope this means people will start buying music again. 1-10 dollars for an album containing 5-20 DRM free music files is probably better value in the long run than spotify’s subscription ever was. and with navidrome, mpd, and its clients, managing them was never easier; plus artists get way more of that profit. everyone wins.
Meanwhile in a meeting room in Stockholm:
Remember how we reduced music piracy to an insignificant amount by making the legal choice convenient and relatively affordable? I forgot! So let’s torpedo our business.
Those who fail to scan the address verification QR code within seven days will see their account demoted to the free tier and be barred from joining any other Duo or Family plan for 12 months.
Well that’s pretty crummy. That’s a very long ban, and a lot of extra money.
I have to give location permission to a music app?!

I wonder if you can you log in on a new phone once you got the notification
On android Bluetooth is tied to the location permission, because scanning for Bluetooth devices can be used to narrow down the device location.
location permission
It doesn’t really say that, I don’t think? It only says you need to be “in the same place”, because you need to scan a QR code, right?
Nothing really preventing you both from just sending the QR code via message either… 🤷♂️










