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    1 day ago

    This criticism would hit so much harder if, say, the people of France would do something about the hard right, but, oh look, Marine Le Pen can run for president again? Sounds familiar.

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      21 hours ago

      I agree with your sentiment but knock it the fuck off. Those protesting in France and those protesting and fighting back how they can in the US are n the same team.

      As are many people here and around the world. Let’s acknowledge and uplift each other when we’re all striving for the same goal. You can still call out people who are building themselves up by denigrating others but don’t do it by behaving the same way.

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        19 hours ago

        Yes, that is my point, too. Notice how the excuses start to fly when I apply the same (warranted) criticisms to other countries that so many non-Americans lob at the U.S. It doesn’t feel good, and doesn’t help anything, does it? Everybody should knock it off, and work together instead of basking in self-righteousness.

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          Notice how the excuses start to fly when I apply the same (warranted) criticisms to other countries that so many non-Americans lob at the U.S.

          You mean when you engage in whataboutism?

          Yes, that is my point, too.

          Really shitty way to make it by feeding right back into it. Notice I didn’t have to do that to make the point?

          It doesn’t feel good,

          I’m not from France. I just saw an American acting like an ass and decided, as an American as well, to call it out.

          and doesn’t help anything, does it?

          Nope, yet you fucking did it anyway?

          Everybody should knock it off, and work together instead of basking in self-righteousness.

          How did you not drown in the irony typing this out?

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        20 hours ago

        I hear you but its hard when so many Americans are so resistant to any criticism in the first place. Its very hard to build solidarity with people who dont want to see what they might be doing wrong.

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        And this happened in the US too, except 5 million people, not thousands.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Kings_protests

        We here in the EU love to shit on Americans because they are stupid. We are just as fucking stupid or even stupider because we are repeating the exact same mistakes less than 2 years after America broadcasted theirs.

        Here in the EU, literally exactly the same thing is happening. Corporate sponsored fascism. It is all in our Parliament and Comission at around 26% representation (chat control, fascist policies, even gaming holidays with racist tricks like “must be an overwhelming majority against to NOT pass, while everyone is on holiday”).

        Italy is controlled by a fascist party, luckily the Dutch fascists just lost control because they did such a spectacularly bad job, Germany and Belgium fascists are reaching almost a quarter general support, Austria has fascists winning a plurality, Croatia, Czechia, Slovakia, all have fascists in the controlling governments.

        France’s fascist party with Le Pen literally has more support in France that America’s MAGA fascists.

        France is the only one doing anything as far as actual protests, and they are getting shit on by every country’s media the exact same, even the 90% identical talking points as how American media shit on BLM and No Kings protests.

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      24 hours ago

      What should they do about Le Pen? Protests the courts that overturned the ruling that restricted her from running for 5 years or simply not vote for her?