• PlasticExistence@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    What did you think I meant by, “we are not a united people”?

    You can’t organize peace with people who idealize a fascist society

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      9 hours ago

      I mean sure, ignore the protests from earlier this year where millions turned out across the nation, but sure…

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      1 day ago

      You dont need everyone to mount a resistance. Why does it have to be all or nothing? And who said you had to organize peace with fascists?

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          1 day ago

          I have lived there. Ive been involved in community action during the first administration. If you believe its impossible, youve already lost.

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            1 day ago

            I never said impossible. I was also involved in a lot of community action during Trump’s first admin.

            See how far that got us?

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            1 day ago

            So you could have stayed and fought… but you left and are now yelling from the sidelines.

            I agree with a lot of your points, but it rings a bit disingenuous coming from someone who threw in the towel.

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              1 day ago

              I moved back because my family is here. What the fuck are you on about? It had fuck all to do with Trump. I moved back during Biden. Are you seriously upset because I wanted to be with my family?

              Stop being a cunt.

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                I’ll add to what Valmond said.

                Not once did you advocate for a violent solution. You’re right, it’s either nothing or an extreme with these people, and excuses at every point.

                They have enough to do a national peaceful shutdown. 60% in the urban areas for two weeks, which is hardly enough time to starve or be evicted, and at those numbers after it’s done, it’ll be impossible to replace that many jobs or go through with the evictions.

                You’re right. Churchill was right, let them pile on…if they showed this much unity piling on the way they do to the mirror across social networks toward a national shutdown, solving their problems and voting for fucks sake, they’d solve this.

                If they turned out to vote at 80-90% all the time, there’d be daylight between them and the current best performing democracies in the world.

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                24 hours ago

                “Of course I have a valid reason for inaction, but what about the 330 million other people? Surely everyone else’s lives are disposable?”

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                1 day ago

                Not upset with you at all, nor do I blame you for wanting to be with your family. Just as I don’t blame the many Americans who are prioritizing the immediate needs of their families.

                But you are giving yourself the grace and understanding that you have repeatedly refused to give to others.

                Call me a cunt, get offended, run with “the only moral excuse is my excuse” narrative all you want. But it would do you some good to realize your reasons to move are not so different from the people you are condemning.