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I wouldn’t be nearly so confident that data centers in space are impossible engineering, but it probably won’t happen in my lifetime or Elon’s.
I actually know someone who worked on the MIRI instrument & they keep going on and on about heat transmission in wiring being a huge challenge.
I remember hearing that in Walter Isaacson’s hagiography it said something like “Musk continuously and ruthlessly pushes to first principles of physics”…
Maybe not so much
I think he has an undergraduate degree in economics.
“The route of least intellectual resistance” is my new favorite insult.
This guy really thought Elon Musk was one of the engineers designing Tesla cars?
I get wanting to respect someone, but he’s literally just a rich person. He’s not an engineering wiz.
This
The only Tesla car that is 100% Elmo’s idea is the cyber truck and well, it shows.
The guy is, in hisnown words, fully removed, and a serial liar. I don’t understand why anyone ever thought anything positive about him
Yeaaahhh… the upper limit of my engineering experience is as an e-bike/e-scooter mechanic. But that’s more than enough to know that I don’t want an aluminum frame on a vehicle going faster than 20mph.
Aluminum doesn’t handle torsion or vibration well. Like, at all. I’ve tried to bend aluminum handlebars back after they’ve suffered a short drop on a curb when the kickstand failed. If they’ve had enough, they just SNAP. Like fucking twigs. Now, for microvehicles that typically don’t suffer a lot of the kind of vibration that big aluminum parts have to take (think wind turbine blades and aircraft), that isn’t a big deal. They’re operating at low speed, and with prudent care, they last for decades.
However (and this is where I would be very grateful for the insight of actual metallurgists or material scientists), there’s a good fucking reason why the frame and chassis of the average personal vehicle is made of steel of a specific carbon percentage. It has better ductility than aluminum alloy, and can handle collisions better. It absorbs that kinetic energy by bending and then relaxing. It doesn’t shatter like aluminum does. That is a crucial crash-protection feature that makes the physics behind crumple zones and crash cages work.
Cybertrucks are death traps, they start with a shit frame that cannot protect passengers at high speed collisions (carrying an extremely heavy and highly flammable battery), and end with door handles that have no manual override. Fuck everything about these fucking lemons.
It wasn’t 100% him. He might have drawn the body with crayon because it certainly looks like it but he’s really not involved, he likes to pretend he is.
Elon is mad that a scientist is pointing out the flaws in his latest grift.
There never were going to be data centers in space, that’s just another way to dupe investors.
The science is sound. Otherwise a Thermos would be as effective at keeping things hot as any other bottle.
Honestly though, how fucking naive do you need to be to ever think Elon was a competent engineer?
We’re still trying to find the bottom of that barrel unfortunately
I don’t use twitter, this is satire right? cause if this is a real conversation im glad i was never on twitter to begin with lol
This is kinda what Twitter always was. It’s what happens when you sort by author instead of by topic.
Look at the like counts. It’s his platform, so unsurprising.
That is the thing that annoys me most. Getting heat away in vacuum / space is super complicated. Plus, what if a component breaks down? You can’t send an engineer to replace a faulty cable.
You are fully r_tarded.
…according to Musk. But to anyone with an IQ above room temperature, you’re absolutely correct.
A quick google search aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand
https://www.weforum.org/stories/artificial-intelligence/space-data-centres-cooling
Scale ISS-style hardware to the modest 1 megawatt data centre, and the mass is punishing: roughly 100 tons of radiators alone. By comparison, 1 megawatt of cutting-edge AI compute racks is on the order of 10 tons. That is the economic knife edge: the radiators alone could weigh close to ten times more than the compute hardware. Since launch cost scales with mass, cooling could impose an order-of-magnitude launch-cost penalty, before the first token is generated.
Also; slop?
idfk I’m more agreeing with the guy and the article leans towards the guy being right too. I am not a scientist.
It’s crazy though that elon musk, the person who owns SpaceX, didn’t know about the radiation thing.
He did. He is pushing the concept of space data centers because he OWNS the launch systems that would put them up there. All those exploding costs because of the launch mass they talk about? Yea those costs would go to him.
Dude, the only thing Musk engineered in his life were Tesla stocks.
Let’s be very clear about one thing: Musk is not an engineer. He employs engineers, but he is not an engineer himself. He has given himself the title of Chief Engineer at SpaceX, but that’s no different than me giving myself the title of Chief Surgeon. It’s meaningless. The actual engineers at Tesla and SpaceX are very capable, though perhaps misguided, as one would have to be to work to further the interests of a megalomaniacal mega-dork like Musk. Unfortunately, many of these actual engineers must also have a kind of cult-like, sycophantic devotion to Musk, which is why none of them have the guts to tell him that AI data centers in space is a stupid fucking idea.
mega-dork
Hey now, let’s leave the poor whale dicks out of this. 🥲
Rocket science is really cool. Rocket scientists are huge geeks about rocket science. If there are really only a handful of organizations hiring rocket scientists (and most of them are run by megalomaniacs or deeply entwined with the MIC), you’re faced with the prospect of working for a bad company, or not working on your passion that you specialized in.
I remember some AMAs from The Site That Shall Not Be Named by SpaceX employees, and a common comment was that they do their best to keep him distracted so they can do their actual work because his ideas are stupid.
Rocket surgery, even more so.
Also, can we start referring to ridderp as “TSTSNBN” or “tstsnbn”? 🤣
(or, “ts2nbn”?)
Somehow we have to restructure our society so that no one has to be beholden to men like Musk. We have to end this plutocracy. We need to replace it with a meritocracy. Or, we could be really radical and replace it with >gasp< democracy.
TBF, I’m not confident he is human. I mean, if it went public that he’s not, would anyone be surprised? Ofc, Zuck’s more likely to sprout that leak, but still. Would we?
Mega-dork is way too weak. He is a full blown Nazi and wants nothing but more power, money, influence etc.
You don’t really need a cult following, either. Most engineers just want to get paid well for their hard work and experience. Does Musk pay well? I don’t know. But it’s hard for me to believe so many smart people work for him just because of a cult following.
No, he does not pay well. His companies base bay is generally about 10-20% under market, and they are all 5 days in office.
The only reason you work there are for stock grants, you love his politics, or because your a true believer in the mission.
I guess you don’t become the world’s richest man by paying people fair wages.
In fact, history shows that it’s literally impossible. 🤢
Every single penny those fucks have is ours, by right. 🤷🏼♂️
It should be (and might be?) illegal for him to call himself an engineer unless he graduated from an accredited school with a degree in engineering
you can bet the few that have the guts are quickly fired, so, the proportion remains
The partially intellectually delayed response of a fellow autistic… I’ve been there buddy but you’re better off explaining your answer long-hand than just insulting.
If you claim to be a high IQ individual that’s some kind of savant on the spectrum, when those moments arise, those are the moments where you’re supposed to be able to recall information at the drop of a dime.
I think that musk showed his intellectual delay.
One would think an academic would realize that the hype man doesn’t actually do any engineering.
It’s an idea that would work much better after a few more years when the chips are mature and not changing as much and you have a moon base producing aluminum metal and then you can use the waste rock as radiators with a little bit of moonwater cooling. Doing it now is the worst time.
Yeah a data center, on earth or in space, sits on a ton of infrastructure. It is foolish to even mention the cherry on top when you don’t even have a cake yet.
First we industrialize cis lunar space then we industrialize the moon then we’ll see about data centers in space.
Apropos then that fElon prefers to declare he’s placing said cherry on top and the rest of his cult scrambles to design, manufacture, and position said cake directly under the cherry’s forecasted destination vector. ☝🏼
If you haven’t already, you should read Artemis.
