• vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    ‘Criminal’ activity usually involves a victim. There is no victim here. There’s a good chance the sanction was in fact not legal anyway, but even if it was… do we really need news every time someone commits a minor civil offense? Should I be publishing a newspaper every time someone in China uses the pirate bay?

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      2 days ago

      ‘Criminal’ activity usually involves a victim.

      Criminal is defined as violating laws designated as crimes. Not if there’s a victim.

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        2 days ago

        Crimes without victims are pretty much always looked on as unjust when that society falls; and generally speaking have no place in modern society.

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            2 days ago

            In the trans panic defense, there is still a victim alleged. (Wrongly) the man believes he is a victim of fraud, which lead him to harm the trans woman.

            In victimless crimes, there is no possible victim to allege. There is no actual victim from sanctions violations that are designed to cause indiscriminate social harm.

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              9 hours ago

              It works because you see the ‘victim’ as not worthy of being one.

              Better example. Hunting.

              We have conservation laws to prevent the over hunting, but it has no ‘victim’ under the law either.