Now have you ever considered maybe some people want or prefer monogamy? Or are you so self obsessed with your rightness that you cant conceive of someone who prefers something different than you being anything other than just - wrong?
Really, if you want to boil it down so far you can say poly is just a different religious belief. Any “belief” is rooted in faith. Gee this is fun.
Oh and I dont believe in monogamy, I believe in choice and trying to respect other people’s choices, so long as they aren’t hurting anyone. If someone chooses monogamy or polyamory, good for them. You are the one trying to force your belief on others.
Preference is one thing. You framed it as a moral stance, that’s religion whether you want to be religious or not. But please, keep going. The fact that you can’t tell the difference between “we’re apes, there is one naturally monogamous species of Ape, and it isn’t H Sapiens” and a bunch of rules that Bronze Age goat herders made up to increase the price they’d get for selling their teenaged daughters to their middle aged neighbors is fucking hilarious to me. One of those is a religious belief, one is not.
CHEATING is a moral stance. Two people enter a relationship with an assumed monogamy, I expect them to be respectful to each other. I have a moral stance against cheating, not polygamous people.
The fact that so many of you conflate the two makes me think you guys think being poly gives you license to fuck whoever you want without caring about if it might hurt someone.
You do not get to fuck whoever you want just because they want to fuck you. Sorry to bring reality to sex.
E: are you really trying to say that taking a moral stance on something is inherently religious?
Lying is a moral stance. Caring who someone else fucks, even if they also fuck you sometimes is giving credence to Bronze Age goat fuckers and the patriarchy they invented.
You do not get to fuck whoever you want just because they want to fuck you.
Actually them wanting (and being willing, which is different) to fuck you is basically all that matters, everything else is moralistic bullshit added by people who think fucking a 12 year old is fine as long as you “buy” her properly with marriage contract. If you want to agree with those sickos that’s on you, but I genuinely think everyone who thinks there’s something inherently immoral or inherently sacred with sex needs to have their hard drive checked.
Sorry to bring reality to sex.
If that’s what you think happened here you don’t need to apologize. There’s no reality present in your reply at all. You might, however, give some serious thought to apologizing for bringing moralism to sex, because holy fuck I can smell the goat musk on you after that last comment.
Yeah you keep equating me to other people and saying I believe things I don’t to try and “win” this argument. You are arguing with yourself.
Anyways, cheating is lying. I don’t think sex is sacred. I DO think TRUST is sacred. I want my partner to trust me, so we have an agreed set of expectations and we hold each other to those expectations. Radical, I know.
Just because you don’t believe in monogamy doesn’t mean other people don’t obviously. A relationship is an agreement for an expectation of behaviors. That can be different for different people, like poly people.
You have a funny way of selectively applying morality. Seems like you just dont agree with anyone holding you to any expectations. Good luck with that.
you keep equating me to other people and saying I believe things I don’t to try and “win” this argument. You are arguing with yourself.
An interwebs response, given that I’ve only addressed things you’ve said directly with quotations from your comments I was responding to. I think you’re just butthurt at having social axioms you’ve always believed were unquestionable being questioned. But that part is an actual assumption and not directly tied to any one thing you’ve said, I’ll be honest. Either way, you’re in no way making this interesting enough to continue, so please go ahead and make a final defense in summation of your steadfast devotion to Bronze Age Goat Fucker morality. Hell, I might even read it, but based on everything you’ve said so far, I very much doubt you’ll craft a reply interesting enough to get a response.
Oh is that so? Thanks for educating me.
Now have you ever considered maybe some people want or prefer monogamy? Or are you so self obsessed with your rightness that you cant conceive of someone who prefers something different than you being anything other than just - wrong?
Really, if you want to boil it down so far you can say poly is just a different religious belief. Any “belief” is rooted in faith. Gee this is fun.
Oh and I dont believe in monogamy, I believe in choice and trying to respect other people’s choices, so long as they aren’t hurting anyone. If someone chooses monogamy or polyamory, good for them. You are the one trying to force your belief on others.
Preference is one thing. You framed it as a moral stance, that’s religion whether you want to be religious or not. But please, keep going. The fact that you can’t tell the difference between “we’re apes, there is one naturally monogamous species of Ape, and it isn’t H Sapiens” and a bunch of rules that Bronze Age goat herders made up to increase the price they’d get for selling their teenaged daughters to their middle aged neighbors is fucking hilarious to me. One of those is a religious belief, one is not.
You sure are putting a lot of words in my mouth.
CHEATING is a moral stance. Two people enter a relationship with an assumed monogamy, I expect them to be respectful to each other. I have a moral stance against cheating, not polygamous people.
The fact that so many of you conflate the two makes me think you guys think being poly gives you license to fuck whoever you want without caring about if it might hurt someone.
You do not get to fuck whoever you want just because they want to fuck you. Sorry to bring reality to sex.
E: are you really trying to say that taking a moral stance on something is inherently religious?
That is a religious belief I don’t subscribe to.
Lying is a moral stance. Caring who someone else fucks, even if they also fuck you sometimes is giving credence to Bronze Age goat fuckers and the patriarchy they invented.
Actually them wanting (and being willing, which is different) to fuck you is basically all that matters, everything else is moralistic bullshit added by people who think fucking a 12 year old is fine as long as you “buy” her properly with marriage contract. If you want to agree with those sickos that’s on you, but I genuinely think everyone who thinks there’s something inherently immoral or inherently sacred with sex needs to have their hard drive checked.
If that’s what you think happened here you don’t need to apologize. There’s no reality present in your reply at all. You might, however, give some serious thought to apologizing for bringing moralism to sex, because holy fuck I can smell the goat musk on you after that last comment.
Yeah you keep equating me to other people and saying I believe things I don’t to try and “win” this argument. You are arguing with yourself.
Anyways, cheating is lying. I don’t think sex is sacred. I DO think TRUST is sacred. I want my partner to trust me, so we have an agreed set of expectations and we hold each other to those expectations. Radical, I know.
Just because you don’t believe in monogamy doesn’t mean other people don’t obviously. A relationship is an agreement for an expectation of behaviors. That can be different for different people, like poly people.
You have a funny way of selectively applying morality. Seems like you just dont agree with anyone holding you to any expectations. Good luck with that.
An interwebs response, given that I’ve only addressed things you’ve said directly with quotations from your comments I was responding to. I think you’re just butthurt at having social axioms you’ve always believed were unquestionable being questioned. But that part is an actual assumption and not directly tied to any one thing you’ve said, I’ll be honest. Either way, you’re in no way making this interesting enough to continue, so please go ahead and make a final defense in summation of your steadfast devotion to Bronze Age Goat Fucker morality. Hell, I might even read it, but based on everything you’ve said so far, I very much doubt you’ll craft a reply interesting enough to get a response.